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#683 of 1053
by jets80
Jul 09, 2008 (11:17 am)
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Yeah...either way you slice it, $384 is insane??!! What state did you get this deal in?
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Re: [jets80] by kroach
Jul 09, 2008 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: jets80 (Jul 09, 2008 11:17 am)

I'm not sure I could get into a fully loaded Geo Metro for $384.00. I would take that deal and run like a bandit!
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Re: Any lease option & price details on this lease?? [kroach] by ksoman
Jul 09, 2008 (12:26 pm)
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Replying to: kroach (Jul 09, 2008 8:08 am)

at $46,289, you should be paying lesser per month... my lease calculator comes up
lower on payments based on your #s...
 
At two new york dealership they offered me a demo car with 3500~4000 miles on it with a discounted price of about 5k... over and above the other savings... that would have brought the price down to about 45K range.
 
even considering it's a lease, knowing the pains of a car like this going bad (i'd a bad history with a bmw convertible recently that i finally unloaded at upto 20k loss)... i decided not to take that 5k saving on price, pay the additional 100 bux a month as peace of mind insurance...
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Re: [kroach] by mavs_fan
Jul 09, 2008 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: kroach (Jul 09, 2008 11:44 am)

Vchad,
 
sounds like you're getting a great deal man. I've been to a mercedes dealer and wasn't getting anywhere near the payments that they quoted you. I think others have asked for this information already and I am new to the forums so not quite sure how this works, is it possible to get contact info on the dealer that you went to.
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Re: [kroach] by vchad
Jul 09, 2008 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: kroach (Jul 09, 2008 11:44 am)

Hey guys...Kroach and Jets80. Ill break down exactly how i got the detail, if you have anymore questions...feel free to email me personally.
 
I live in Ann Arbor, MI ...its about 45mins west of detroit. Back in december the local MB dealers were running this ad of a E-350 for 350 a month, with emoployee pricing...i tired very hard then to get an employee #...but was unsuccessful.
Out of curiousity, and a need for an extra family car...i emailed a few of the dealers, to see if they are still offering "employee pricing" on MB cars...if you can get a chrysler employee price. They responded YES...ONLY if u can get an actual employee to give you a code. I tried for a few weeks, really had no luck.
 
So on the last day of June...literally ..around 530pm...I got a call from a MB dealer in lansing michigan...okemos auto collection...saying somehow they had an extra Employee code. (i had spoken to this dealer before, they knew i was trying to get an employee code). Literally 5minutes later....going around 85mph...drove the 45mins to dealer...because i was TOO excited for this once in a lifetime deal!! he informed he...TODAY was the last day to do it, had till 8pm..and if i wasn't interested, he had others in mind to pass the deal on to. I assured him i was on my way and went.
 
I got there...they had about 6 E-classes. I Saw a silver with black interior...WITH p1 package...ipod kit. We took it for a drive...loved it...and talked numbers...nothing to discuss really....the price is set in stone by MB.
 
I dont have exact numbers in front..but im sure im damn close to it.
 
MSRP $55,500
Employee purchase price : $49, 100?
MINUS MB rebate of $4000
Purchase price of $45,100
 
The deal was for 1140 down....First month of $384 and turn in fee of $750?
SO my price is...with 10k miles...for 27months... for $384 a month...WITH TAX!! i thought about maybe 12kmiles...but he said, residual changed..and added like $30+ to the payment. He said half way through lease...MB would call me..and ask if id like to buy more miles...and since i have true employee pricing...id get some sorta discounted rate(not sure on that tho). I was so puzzled how you could get a $55k mb for 384 a month...i couldn't believe it. In january, i actually leased a jeep commander...WITH employee pricing for $355 a month...and that damn thing had a msrp of 35k. I felt like i was robbing mercedes with this lease. If i were you guys, MAKE sure your getting the employee price...dont let them tell you otherwise. BTW..my residual was 64% and MF of .00001
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Re: Finally got my E350 4 MATIC SPORT [vchad] by kauffman1974
Jul 09, 2008 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: vchad (Jul 08, 2008 8:56 pm)

Hey Vchad,
 
Thanks for the response. Here is the deal I'm currently being offered, any input would be greaty appreciated. I still think this is too high for the monthly payment.
 
E350W $51,200
040 Black
141 Black MB Tex
P01 P01 Premium I Package: $2,410
389 : Hands-Free Communication System
530 : DVD COMAND Navigation
536 : SIRIUS Satellite Radio
540 : Power Rear-Window Sunshade
873 : Heated Front Seats
057 iPod Integration Kit $425
280 Standard Lthr Str Wheel/Shift Knob
333 333 Sport Package: 18" 10-Twin Spoke All
R68 : 18" Wheels
80V : Speed and Load Index
952 : Sportline Package
954 : Avant Garde Package (Sport)
414 Glass Sunroof
600 Headlamp Washing System
732 Black Birdseye Maple Wood Trim
917 PZEV-Emission, USA
 
SUBTOTAL $54,035
DESTINATION & DELIVERY $875
TOTAL $54,910
 
Lease
 
SPECIAL INTERNET PRICE: $47,044
 
TOTAL due at signing = $1050
 
10,000 miles per year,
 
27 months (best term)
 
Payment: $573+ tax or $620 tax including.
 
Money factor used is .00085 and the residual is set at 64%= $620
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Re: [vchad] by mavs_fan
Jul 09, 2008 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: vchad (Jul 09, 2008 12:37 pm)

Hey Vchad,
 
thanks for the response and setting the record straight.
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Re: Finally got my E350 4 MATIC SPORT [kauffman1974] by vchad
Jul 09, 2008 (12:54 pm)
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Replying to: kauffman1974 (Jul 09, 2008 12:37 pm)

Hey Kauffman1974.
 
You seem to pretty much have the same exact car as mine...Except i have the IPOD kit..which was 400 more. The problem here is....Your not getting true employee pricing..either the dealer is able to give to you, but isn't giving you the full discount. Or he's just not able to give you employee pricing...and is doing the best they can.
 
Your "special internet price" should be $44,700 or so...IF they are giving you true eomployee pricing. Since my car had ipod kit...and got employee price of $55,100?...and the ipod kit is 500...it should be less than mine. There seems to be about a $2400 difference in price between your car and mine. So thats about $87 more a month. BUT your money factor is WRONG. and that could also be the difference in savings. The original MB deal...was .00030 MF nationally. I thought that was what i was gonna get too....but im assuming with Employee price...i got .00001 MF. WHich is prolly alteast another $50 in savings. I just can't to figure out why urs is $620 a month. Because your 620 - 384(my payment..for same car) = $236 difference a month. $236 * 27 = $6372. which is a ridic difference. I wish i had more to tell you...but somewhere...this dealer is hiding costs or taking advantage of you. DONT let them do it. I have to say, my deal took me about 30minutes...fastest i ever bought a car...they were straight forward....they wanted to get rid of a car...and i wanted it ...so it was win-win. You seem to know what your doing, use my #'s and approach them again...if they say its not true...i will personally mail you a copy of my purchase agreement.
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Re: Finally got my E350 4 MATIC SPORT [vchad] by kauffman1974
Jul 09, 2008 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: vchad (Jul 09, 2008 12:54 pm)

Thanks Vchad,
 
Based on my calculations on what the dealer offered me, I was coming in at approx $510 a month (which included tax). My response to the dealer and their subsequent reply is as follows:
 
 ME: I've run my own lease calculation analysis and for some reason I'm coming up with a much lower monthly payment than what you have noted below. With a base cap cost of 47,044 and a net cap cost of 45,994 (47,044 - 1050 down) and using the .00085 money factor with 8.5% sales tax on a 27 month lease, I'm coming up with a payment of $510.92 which includes the taxes. Based on this, I have a depreciation amount of 10,852, with a finance charge of 1,862 and tax of 1,170.
 
DEALER: You are missing a few things but I cannot tell you how your software works. I will be more than happy to show you my software when you get here. Your adjusted cap cost before you take out your down payment is $48, 682.84 You did not factor in the 1095 acquisition fee, 45 doc fee, your dmv lisence of $381 and the bluetooth adaptor of $510 which I included in your lease.
 
I have no idea how, based on the initial deal they presented that they came up with a $48,682 adjusted cap cost. Thanks for the heads up on the moneyfactor.
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Re: Any lease option & price details on this lease?? [jets80] by 1985mb
Jul 09, 2008 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: jets80 (Jul 09, 2008 10:26 am)

Technically that IS zero down, as "1st month, plus inception fee, plus tags/title" are not down payments a.k.a. cap cost reduction.

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