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Re: E350 Lease [madmarlin] by kyfdx HOST
May 15, 2008 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: madmarlin (May 15, 2008 6:44 am)

In your comparison, you are paying the depreciation in one lump sum.. What you fail to do in that scenario is account for financing the residual amount ($28,600).
 
When you lease a car, you are borrowing the whole amount, not just the depreciated portion... Even if you paid the entire depreciation upfront, you'd still owe a finance charge each month.. In this case:
 
$28,600 (cap cost) + $28,600 (residual) X .00225 MF = $128.70 per month...
 
Hope that helps..
kyfdx
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Re: E350 Lease [kyfdx] by madmarlin
May 15, 2008 (6:18 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 15, 2008 8:10 am)

kyfdx
 
i understand what you are saying. the one fundamental problem I've always had with leases is the concept of paying interest on the residual. The residual theoretically represents the value of the car at the end of the lease. When you turn it in, that should represent what the dealer could then sell it for to a new buyer. At that point, they would then charge interest on that value to the new buyer. By also charing interest to the lessee, they have, in effect, double charged the interest and recorded more profit. That is whay the actual interest rate I arrived at is 16.75% when you strictly look at the value the lessee is supposedly deriving from the car over the term of the lease.
 
Not saying leasing is bad, by any means. there are deals to be had and you can always work a better one. there are other factors, too, that make leasing more attractive than buying. But the rates can be a bit harsh when viewed pragmatically in comparison to the value derived.
 
With all that said, i still want to try to work a lease deal on a new Bluetec, potentially. We'll see what happens.
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Re: E350 Lease [madmarlin] by kyfdx HOST
May 16, 2008 (4:48 am)
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Replying to: madmarlin (May 15, 2008 6:18 pm)

Leasing is simpler than that...
 
First... the dealer does nothing but sell the car to a bank.. what happens when the lease is done really has no effect on your deal.
 
In essence, you are taking out a loan for the full amount of the selling pricee, and paying the loan down to the residual, at which time you sell the car for what you owe on it (actually turning it in, but the same concept).
 
There is no double interest or additional profit. It is no different than if you bought the car, then sold it to a private party after 3 years.
 
But, leasing isn't for everyone!
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Is $2000 apply only for lease? by mynextcar
May 16, 2008 (10:42 pm)
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I am considering E350 lease or purchase. I see a couple of people mentioned about $2000 lease money but in Edmund incentive section, it also lists $2000 marketing support apply for all E classes. Since MB also offering 0.9%APR, would it be better to lease or buy the car? I drive only 10k annually.
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Re: Is $2000 apply only for lease? [mynextcar] by ocautoseeker
May 17, 2008 (12:56 am)
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Replying to: mynextcar (May 16, 2008 10:42 pm)

How long do you "realistically" want to keep the vehicle?
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Re: Is $2000 apply only for lease? [ocautoseeker] by mynextcar
May 17, 2008 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: ocautoseeker (May 17, 2008 12:56 am)

I will keep this car for at least 5 years.
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E63 Residual and MF by jackk1
May 18, 2008 (8:57 am)
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I am looking at a 2008 E63 Retail Price 95440, cap cost 86940 and I have been told two different MF and Residual values from two dealerships.
I am looking at a 27 month 15k mi. per year lease.
.00150 and .62 and .00120 and .59 are the two I was quoted.
What are the real numbers from Mercedes Financial?
Thanks.
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Re: Is $2000 apply only for lease? [mynextcar] by peteropny
May 18, 2008 (8:28 pm)
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Replying to: mynextcar (May 16, 2008 10:42 pm)

We don't usually lease cars. But with the deals that are around, we decided to lease - our deal 2008 MB E350-4matic - white, tan MB tex, P1, Ipod, Panorama Roof, Wood Steering Wheel, "Natural Wood Trim", Sport Package - $58,220 list - Lease deal (10k miles per year - $585 monthly payment - 27 months (1st month paid by MB/dealer) - residual of $36,600 - $0 down) - so if we bought the car at the end of the lease the total cost is $51,810. We figure that this is "free financing" with the option to change cars if we want in 27 months or if the value then is lower than residual, there is a possibility of paying less than the residual on the buy then. We'll pick up the car on Tues or Wed.
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E350 lease check by calbear05
May 19, 2008 (7:35 pm)
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Hey guys,
 
Is this a good deal?
2008 E350
Sport Package
PII
Parktronic
Panoramic Roof
Ipod Kit
Window Blinds
Electronic trunk closer
MSRP: 60540
Selling: 55300
MF: .00085
Residual: 64%, 10,000 miles/year
Monthly $750 with CA tax
 
Thanks!
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Re: E350 lease check [calbear05] by shawn757
May 19, 2008 (8:29 pm)
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Replying to: calbear05 (May 19, 2008 7:35 pm)

I was offered $8000 below MSRP last month in california. I Think it's still available. If the dealer is willing you should get it.

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