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Mercedes-Benz E-Class Lease Questions

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E63 24 Month 15k lease question by jackk1
May 11, 2008 (2:57 pm)
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I was at a dealer this afternoon and they had the $999/mo sticker on the car sitting in the showroom. The salesman said it was over, and the sales manager said it was still good. Does anyone know what the real dealer incentive and rates are? I'm sure I can get $999/mo anytime if I put down a huge cap reduction, but I would like to do the first month and whatever necessary fees only. Has anyone done a deal on an E63 this month?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: E350 Lease [ghstudio] by ocautoseeker
May 12, 2008 (12:30 am)
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Replying to: ghstudio (May 10, 2008 12:14 pm)

I'm assuming that you're looking at a 2wd and not the 4-matic.
 
2008 Mercedes E350 (2wd)
24 Mo -- Residual 63% -- .00085
27 Mo -- Residual 63% -- .00085
36 Mo -- Residual 52% -- .00130
 
The E-350 4-matic and Blue-tec's carry different numbers so let me know if you decide to go with one of those instead.
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Re: E350 Lease [ocautoseeker] by madmarlin
May 14, 2008 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: ocautoseeker (May 12, 2008 12:30 am)

I've done a search and haven't been able to easily find an answer to this question (which I should probably know). Forgive me for the basic nature. How do I take the residual and money factor you guys are posting and calculate the lease payment? Many thanks and apologies at the same time.
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$569 - $0 drive off - 27 mos lease ? by peteropny
May 14, 2008 (3:50 pm)
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We were thinking of just buying a new C300-4matic but the dealer was pushing this promotion on E350-4matic - Sticker $58,020 for 27 mos lease with $0 drive off (including them paying first month's lease) for $569 per month with residual of $36,200. I think this is a good deal but wanted to get opinions. Thanks!!
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Re: $569 - $0 drive off - 27 mos lease ? [peteropny] by ghstudio
May 14, 2008 (4:11 pm)
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Replying to: peteropny (May 14, 2008 3:50 pm)

You don't say if this is a 10k, 12k or 15K lease but a simple calculation says that the dealer is selling you the car for his invoice and there is no interest on the lease. Mercedes is currently offering an extra $2000 downpayment which they apply to the lease bringing the capitalized cost down to 51000 or so.
 
You aren't going to do any better than that.....you just have to decide if you want to buy the C or lease the E. I would suggest that you drive them both before deciding (and drive the 4wd...not the 2wd).
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Re: $569 - $0 drive off - 27 mos lease ? [ghstudio] by peteropny
May 14, 2008 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: ghstudio (May 14, 2008 4:11 pm)

Oops - knew I forgot something - its 10k miles - we use the car just under 10k miles a year. Thanks!!
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Re: E350 Lease [madmarlin] by ocautoseeker
May 14, 2008 (10:10 pm)
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Replying to: madmarlin (May 14, 2008 10:03 am)

The following formula is known as the constant yield method and is the industry standard when calculating lease payments.
 
You'll need to understand what each term is before calculating:
 
Capitalized Cost (Cap Cost) - The agreed upon price or selling price.
Residual Value - The projected wholesale value of the vehicle at the end of the term. It is expressed as a percentage of the of the total MSRP of the vehicle when new.
Term - 24, 27, 33, 36, 39, 48 months etc.
Money Factor - A decimal number which represents a leasing company's usage fee. It's basically the equivalent of an interest rate when purchasing. Simply times the money factor by 2400 and you get ~ an APR equivalent.
 
Depreciation - The difference between the cap cost and the residual value.
 
The Formula:
 
(Cap Cost – Residual Value) / Term = Depreciation
(Cap Cost + Residual Value) X Money Factor = Interest
Depreciation + Interest = Base Monthly Payment
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Re: E350 Lease [ocautoseeker] by madmarlin
May 15, 2008 (4:51 am)
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Replying to: ocautoseeker (May 14, 2008 10:10 pm)

Got you covered ocautoseeker. I knew all of the terms, just wasn't sure on the overall calulation. Got it now. Knew I was missing somehting. Thanks for the info. I appreciate it.
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Re: E350 Lease [ocautoseeker] by madmarlin
May 15, 2008 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: ocautoseeker (May 14, 2008 10:10 pm)

Quick question OC.
 
In your explanation, you say to multiply the MF by 2400 to get an approx. interest rate. On the Bluetec Diesel for March it was posted as .00225, which would equate to an approx. interest of 5.4%. If I do the calc based on the March info and assume a cap cost of $52,000 and a term of 36 months I get:
 
52,000 X 55% = 28,600
52,000 - 28,600 = 23,400
23,400 / 36 = 650
(52,000 + 28,600) X .00225 = 181.35
650 + 181.35 = 831.35
 
Now, If I were to assume that I could make a lump sum for the depreciation of $23,400 and amortize over 36 months at 5.4% (the approx rate) I come up with a payment of only $705.53. To get to the payment of $831.35, the actual assumed interest rate is approx. 16.75%. That is based on amortizing the depreciation of $23,400 over 36 months (Assume you were to bouy a car for $23,400 and pay it off over 36 months, to equate to a monthly payment of $831.35, you would basically be getting charged 16.75% by the bank). Is there something amiss in the above calulcation?
 
At a payment of $831.35, you are paying a total of $29,928.60 when you are theortically using $23,400 of the value of the car. Total interest is $6,528.60. At $705.53, you are paying a total of $25,399.08, so total interest is $1,999.08.

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