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Re: Lease Rates [jim53] by ocautoseeker
Jan 24, 2008 (8:40 pm)
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Replying to: jim53 (Jan 24, 2008 6:12 am)

Sounds decent given the cap cost looks like it's right around invoice. However, if they are offering the lease cash in your region, then you should be able to negotiate a cap cost below invoice (basically, negotiate invoice or near invoice, then minus lease cash)
 
They definitely packed in some reserve on your rate. The buy rate money factor for January is .00145 (3.48%) on terms ranging from 24-48 months. Looks like they hit you for about 1/2% markup (in apr terms). Either way, the rate is still very low.
 
As for why your payments don't match, they most-likely capped the lease acquisition fee into your payments. MBC's acquisition fee is $795. Don't be surprised if they marked it up $200 or $300 when figuring your payments. Refuse to pay the mark-up on this fee.
 
Overall, the deal looks decent (especially for a $94k vehicle). It does appear that they're trying to make a little money, but they are not raking you over the coals. I believe there is some money left on the table though, but for a non high volume car, the deal looks decent.
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Re: Lease Rates [ocautoseeker] by jim53
Jan 25, 2008 (9:07 am)
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Replying to: ocautoseeker (Jan 24, 2008 8:40 pm)

Thanks for your help. Any insight into why MB is offering so much support on this vehical? I have to say that I have looked at MBs' in the past when shopping for a car and have always ended up leasing a BMW because they tended to offer great least deals while MB did not. Now it appears to be the opposite - BMW lease support is poor. Especially on a car like this, I am surprised to see so much support - are they having a difficult time moving them for some reason?
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Re: Lease Rates [jim53] by eights38
Jan 25, 2008 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: jim53 (Jan 25, 2008 9:07 am)

jim53 - I believe that Mercedes is redesigning the EClass shortly. However, the current body style with the free-of-charge sports package has been selling quite well and looks great.
 
BMW is actually supporting the 528i with very aggressive lease rates. The 2008 BMW 528i sedan has a residual of 76% (24 months with 10,000 miles per year) and a 0.00225 money factor (5.4% interest rate).
 
If you need any more help, please feel free to email me or reply.
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E350-4matic lease by nacho2
Jan 27, 2008 (9:15 am)
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Hello Carman,
 
I plan on helping my father lease a MB E350 4-matic vehicle in Syracuse,NY. His 2007 Infiniti M35x was totaled in an accident yesterday and that was a leased vehicle. Quick question since his vehicle was totaled does that get him out of his leased contract with Infiniti? Carman, do you know the January Money Factor for a Mercedes E-350 4matic for 24/36 months with 12k/year. And when you lease a car in New York do you pay tax ahead of time on the entire vehicle similar to Illinois, or just on the monthly payment. Thank you in advance for your help.
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Re: E350-4matic lease [nacho2] by crestonave
Jan 27, 2008 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: nacho2 (Jan 27, 2008 9:15 am)

I hope your dad is ok. Since he's looking to lease another car I guess he must be.
 
I'm no expert, but my layman's understanding of how a lease works is that if the car is totaled or stolen, the lessee is still responsible for the lease payments. However, again, as I understand it, GAP insurance is designed to cover this problem. GAP insurance may be mandatory in NYS; I would sit down and check over the lease contract on the Infiniti to see if it includes GAP.
 
As to tax, my understanding based on lease quotes I've had in the past is that the tax can be paid as part of the monthly payment, but again, that's only my understanding.
 
Good luck.
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Re: E350-4matic lease [nacho2] by myerslaw
Jan 27, 2008 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: nacho2 (Jan 27, 2008 9:15 am)

It all depends on the lease language!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You might also have "gap insurance" which essentially pays off a totaled vehicle in full, covering the difference between depreciated value and selling price when you have purchased a new car. But you gotta read that lease very, very carefully.
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Re: So cal deal [dkla76] by myerslaw
Jan 27, 2008 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: dkla76 (Jan 03, 2008 12:41 am)

If you are in Southern California, so is the world's largest Mercedes dealer. Fletcher Jones in Newport Beach. They sell and lease a huge number of cars each month -- I'd certainly check with them.
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Re: E350-4matic lease [crestonave] by nacho2
Jan 27, 2008 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: crestonave (Jan 27, 2008 9:27 am)

Thanks for the reply. He is fine, it's just that a young driver with a permit was driving fast in the mall parking lot and didn't stop at the stop sign and ram into the front/side of his Infiniti. I will check with him about the GAP and to see whether he has the insurance. My father has had 3 Infiniti vehicles so far. This last 2007 Infiniti M35x he went with my brother in law and unfortunately got taken to the dry cleaners. He was on a 3yr /15 k lease for a payment of $690 including tax-Yikes! And on top of that I know my father put money down on the lease as well. basically, my father wants an AWD vehicle to drive for the weather in Syracuse,NY as he still has another vehicle to drive for the remainder of the year. I mentioned to him that he can lease either an Mercedes 4-matic or an Audi a6 3.2. I believe Mercedes is still running some great lease deals on the E-350 not sure about Audi A6 or its reliability, only know that the Quattro is supposed to be good.I even told him to get a Toyota Avalon,not sure if they make an AWD vehicle. Today, I told my father that he could probably lease a more expensive vehicle with the Mercedes compared to the InfinitiM35x and for a cheaper lease payment. One disadvantage, is that there is only one Mercedes dealership in Syracuse,NY, will check to see if a dealer can deliver the vehicle on a flatbed from the surrounding areas. Thanks again for your well wishes and guidance.
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thats a pretty good deal!! by s550iwish
Jan 27, 2008 (3:00 pm)
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i pay $700 a month for my ML550 and its roughly the same price as an E350
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Re: E350-4matic lease [nacho2] by ocautoseeker
Jan 27, 2008 (3:01 pm)
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Replying to: nacho2 (Jan 27, 2008 9:15 am)

2008 Mercedes E350 Luxury 4matic Sedan
24 Month – Residual 63% of MSRP – .00115 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00170 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 45% of MSRP – .00170 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 41% of MSRP – .00355 Base Rate
 
2008 Mercedes E350 Sport 4matic Sedan
24 Month – Residual 63% of MSRP – .00115 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00170 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 45% of MSRP – .00170 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 41% of MSRP – .00355 Base Rate
 
* Rates and residuals are based on 12k annual miles. Add 1% to residual for 10k miles, Subtract 2% from residual for 15k miles.
 
In regards to your father's Infiniti. If the vehicle was leased through Infiniti Financial Services, it should've included the GAP coverage. If the lease was through a secondary lender, hopefully he purchased a GAP policy to cover the entire payoff. This is the first thing you need to find out.
 
As for the sales tax in NY, you are only taxed on the depreciation and taxes can be rolled into the monthly payments. In Illinois, you are taxed on the entire cap cost, and taxes are typically due upfront.

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