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#2191 of 3245 Re: E350 vs E350 Bluetec [eric312]
Mar 15, 2012 (10:32 am)
Answered in the Diesel thread....but the only disadvantage is that there are some gas stations that don't carry diesel but given the number of trucks and pickups that use diesel, it's really not a problem. The other disadvantage is that the car will be worth so much at the end of the lease due to the high residual value that you won't want to buy it because it's too expensive ...
24 months is the optimal lease for the Bluetec....not 33 which the dealer will suggest. 33 is good for gas models. If you lease a diesel, use Multiple security deposits to bring down the interest rate. This doesn't work for the gas cars because they have a "promotional" rate...but the diesel doesn't so using MSD's brings down the cost per month significantly. If your dealer doesn't understand Multiple Security Deposits, ask them to call Mercedes finance and find out because it's a standard part of the mercedes lease. There are a few states where you can't do Multiple Security deposits like NY...but if you lease the car in NJ, you can use them and many do just that.
I love my late 2011 e350 bluetec with P2 package. Just a wonderful car and I leased for 24 mos with 10 MSD's. Prior to the e350, I drove three infiniti M's including the M37 which I hated (transmission issues). My e350 Bluetec is more comfortable, quieter and far far more fuel efficient.
#2192 of 3245 Re: E350 vs E350 Bluetec [ghstudio]
Mar 15, 2012 (8:30 pm)
Thank you for replying.
I am in NYC and probably less than half gas stations have diesel. Once i get on the highway it should not be an issue.
I was told by a dealer and several leasing brokers that there is very limited availability of E350 bluetecs. Which does not make sense, why would MB have promotion on them if there is no oversupply but on the other hand maybe due to promotion most cars got sold/leased.
Will contact few more dealers tomorrow.
#2193 of 3245 Re: Competitor Conquest [Car_man]
Mar 18, 2012 (2:09 pm)
Does this apply to cash purchases? Is the 3,000 paid from the dealer or Mercedes? I am trying to figure what to offer on a new e350 with a dealer cost of 52,557 that is listing at 57,685. Any help is much appreciated.
#2194 of 3245 Re: Competitor Conquest [info123]
Mar 18, 2012 (2:53 pm)
The conquest cash is paid directly to the dealer by MB. You just have to bring a current registration of a covered vehicle with you and they do the rest. From your end it's basically as if you had brought with you an extra $3k as far as negotiating goes, only that it doesn't actually come out of your pocket.
Everybody has their own style as far as bargaining goes, but I would probably start at $49.5k and let them huff and puff a bit up to $50k. Used to bargain over the last dollar, but nowadays I think 500 over invoice minus factory incentives is a fair deal. YMMV.
#2195 of 3245 Re: E350 Sport Sedan [puri]
Mar 22, 2012 (5:49 am)
Thanks very much I will!
#2196 of 3245 Re: March Lease Rate and Residual [ghstudio]
Mar 24, 2012 (12:17 pm)
Can you please run the math by us for E350 Bluetec 24-month lease? Using 10k-12-15k residuals. And same money factor for each?
#2197 of 3245 Re: March Lease Rate and Residual [deal_maker]
Mar 24, 2012 (3:58 pm)
Ask your dealer to do it....and have them do it with Maximum 10 multiple security deposits. I dont know this months numbers......I also don't know what negotiated price to use or what discounts you might be eligible for.
#2198 of 3245 E350 Sport 4 Matic Lease
Mar 24, 2012 (8:25 pm)
Got an offer from NJ dealer:
P1 Package + Panorama Roof + Rea Spoiler + Split Fold Seats + Cargo Storage Bin + 2Y Mercedes Care
Final Price: 53100 (dealer claim Invoice - $3000 conquest)
33 month 0.00169 MF 63 residual
Tax and fees Up Front
$625.00 per month in NYC
Is it a good deal or should wait for June / July for better program?
#2199 of 3245 Re: E350 Sport 4 Matic Lease [nycautofan]
Mar 24, 2012 (9:16 pm)
If the deal includes the maintenance in the 53100 then the deal seems OK.....and who knows what the offer will be in June/July. Invoice is MSRP - 7%.
I would not pay bank fee and dealer administration fees upfront....roll them into the lease. You don't mention what the $'s are for these. Mercedes charges $795 for establishing the lease which some dealers mark up to $1095....and the administrative fee seems to vary with $695 being the number most used. You should be able to negotiate to $795 and perhaps negotiate the dealer admin fee (profit) down as well.
Does the monthly charge include taxes??
#2200 of 3245 Re: Competitor Conquest [info123]
Mar 26, 2012 (3:04 pm)
Yes it should info123. The incentive is paid for by Mercedes, not the dealer.
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