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Mercedes-Benz C-Class Lease Questions

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Re: Lease MF/Residuals not too good on C [whatthehack] by ghstudio
May 31, 2008 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: whatthehack (May 31, 2008 5:53 am)

That's $399 with lots of money down in front for 27 months. I don't have the details in front of me, but I'll bet if you divide the down payment by 27months, you'll find that the cost is $399 + $150 or about $550...and then add multimedia and make it and 12K vs 10K miles per year. The real lease price is closer to $650/mo with no money down. That $399 is an advertising price...no relation to the real price. of the car you want to lease.
 
For a $38000 car, that a very unexciting lease. The Mercedes salesman will tell you that the resale on Mercedes cars is incredibly good....but then on a lease, uses a residual value that's less than most every one of it's competitors.....because so few buyers look at the residual value when getting a lease.
 
They also hype low monthly costs with high up front payments....rather than telling you the real cost of the lease...because so few consider the cost up front and figure out the true monthly cost by dividing the up front "capital cost reduction" by the number of months of the lease and then adding that to the quoted lease rate.
 
There's one listing in this thread where someone is gloating over how low their lease price was because they put $8000 down.....which is rediculous both because they didn't think of the $8000 as part of the lease payments...and because it's just bad financially to put any money down up front.
 
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Good or Bad Lease Deal? by joseph9080
May 31, 2008 (6:14 pm)
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Hello everyone:
 
I am new to this site and just leased a C300 luxury, 4matic today without much investigating prior to going into the dealership.
 
The lease is for 27 months with 10,000 miles per year. The list I think is $38,375. Options are pano roof and PI. Payment is $568 including 5% sales tax. $2,000.00 down all inclusive 1st, doc fees, plates small cap cost reduction. I do not have the final price or MF with me to post but hopefully in the morning.
 
Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
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C300 lease deal by ghstudio
Jun 03, 2008 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: joseph9080 (May 31, 2008 6:14 pm)

Is there a special lease deal on the C300 right now. I've been quoted $585.73 per month for 27 months on a c300w4 P1,MM,IPOD, metalic...msrp $41,150.....no money down in front. I'm not sure how the dealer got there because the rate I've seen is .00260 with 67% residual. Is there a special rate in effect???
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Re: C300 lease deal [ghstudio] by srvlonghorn
Jun 03, 2008 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: ghstudio (Jun 03, 2008 1:07 pm)

Yes, there is a special lease in effect until the end of July.
 
But the critical item that you left out is the price of the vehicle you would have to pay to buy the vehicle at the end of the 27 months. It should be in the order of $28,800. If it is then I believe that this is a very good deal. Did you get the quote on-line or in person, cause I may want to go this route!
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Re: C300 lease deal [srvlonghorn] by ghstudio
Jun 04, 2008 (3:30 am)
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Replying to: srvlonghorn (Jun 03, 2008 7:40 pm)

I didn't write down the residual value because I don't buy leased cars at the end....I only look at the total cost of the lease. I think they used 67% residual. This was an in person quote.
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Re: new deal [bgates222] by mtech8
Jun 04, 2008 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: bgates222 (May 11, 2008 11:49 am)

Wow. Sounds like a great deal. What was the residual on the car?
 
Does anyone know what the best way to negotiate & calculate a trade-in. I was planning on negotiating the terms of the lease first. Then mention that I have a trade-in. Is it as simple as taking the difference in pay-off to the trade-in amount and adding it to the capitalized cost?
 
ie: hypothetically 40K MSRP negotiated for 37K. Now adding 5K difference on trade-in. New price is 42K.
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Re: C300 lease deal [ghstudio] by ocautoseeker
Jun 04, 2008 (10:43 pm)
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Replying to: ghstudio (Jun 03, 2008 1:07 pm)

The 24 month rate (money factor) is utilized on the 27 mo lease. For the C300 Sport, it's .00250. For the 4-matic version, it's .00240. The 10k residual is 68%.
 
Would simply need to know the cap cost/selling price to determine whether it's a good deal or not.
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Re: base lease [blov8r] by forsbrg316
Jun 06, 2008 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: blov8r (Apr 06, 2008 7:43 am)

C63 AMG Lease Experience North NJ
 
This is the first time I have ever made a post on any forums as I am more of a overseer to these site who likes to keep his pulse on the car market. Long story short own an E46 M3 had a deposit on the new E92 M3 but wasn't going to order a car that I wanted to lease and be committed to those leasing programs in the month it was delivered when only God knows when that would be. Not to mention dealership was marking up the money factor. Anyways drove past a Northern NJ MB dealership and I saw a Mars Red C63 AMG. Decided to take a look at it knowing how it be cheaper and compaitible to the E92 M3. Sat and started it up! Very impressed. Went inside to talk the numbers with him on a lease as I already knew the Residuals and Money factors but since I was trading in my M3 I wanted to see realistically what a deal would look like. I told him to give me the numbers with 5K down and he comes back to me with for 39 months 5K Cap Cost $1712 a month!!!!! I almost hit the ceiling. It was then when the guy told me there was a $20K mark up on the car. I laugh and got up walked out. Anyone who gives them a $1 over MSRP for that car needs to have there heads examined. Good job MB you finally engineer a car which can compete with the M3. Then you price it to compete with the M3, instead your dealerships are turning possible first time MB buyers like myself into a lifetime BMW guy.
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Re: base lease [forsbrg316] by ghstudio
Jun 06, 2008 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: forsbrg316 (Jun 06, 2008 9:17 am)

There are good dealers and there are bad dealers. The Prius is very much in demand these days with high oil/gas prices. I've visited four dealers. Two of them mark up the car by $2000-2.500 market price adjustment...and claim that I will not find any dealer who even sells at MSRP. The other two sell at MSRP and can deliver a car in exactly the same amount of time.
 
The dealer you are working with is fundamentally scum....they will rip you off on the sell side and then rake you over the coals on the service side....and they could probably care less if you ever come back to buy another car. Don't damn all Mercedes dealers because of one bad apple. Our local dealer really focuses on developing a relationship and treats folks fairly all the way thru the deal....although they are not the cheapest dealer in the area.
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Re: base lease [forsbrg316] by ocautoseeker
Jun 06, 2008 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: forsbrg316 (Jun 06, 2008 9:17 am)

The C63 AMG has a horrible money factor. Residuals are strong, but rates range from .00330 - .00365 for June.

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