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#21 of 601 C230 Sports sedan lease deal and questions by madmanager1 Jan 24, 2006 (9:16 am)
Please give me the residual and MF for a 2006 C230 sports sedan (WZ) 6 sp manual....lease is for 12K/year 39 months. I think I'm getting ripped off...dealer quoted this deal...   MSRP: 33045 sell 32045 money down $2000, however, no sec dep or acq fees....cap cost reduction of $1382 after 1st payment and taxes taken out. However, they used a MF of .00316 which seems really high to me....and a residual of 62.45% giving me a payment of $494 for 39 months 12K miles. I don't like this deal. Any advice would be great. I think I'm going to check out the BMW's... Replies to this message: Car_man (Jan 31, 2006 4:50 am)
#22 of 601 C230 Manual by alexwalex1 Jan 24, 2006 (10:22 am)
After much negotiation, I have the following offer to lease 2006 C230 with manual transmission here in CT: MSRP 32865 Incl standard black paint Sunroof package Heated Sets 6CD changer Incl Destination   Total down including all fees, etc is $3500 12K miles a year for 39 months $370 a month tax included   They state that residual on the car is 62% and money factor is 0.00315. $3500 above includes about $2200 in inception fees and about $1300 in cap cost reduction. They also say their aquisition fee is $995, which seems ver high. Is MB aq fee universal in all states? I see in postings above that is it listed as $795. When I use invoice price of this car ($30619) and the numbers above, $370 a month seems to be exactly on target, but is it? Any thoughts or suggestions? Replies to this message: Car_man (Jan 31, 2006 4:54 am)
#23 of 601 One pay lease by milldoc Jan 27, 2006 (11:37 am)
I am considering a one pay lease on a 2006 4matic c280. What should I expect to pay? I know options come into consideration - but - you know, ball park. Thanks in advance. Doc Replies to this message: Car_man (Jan 31, 2006 4:57 am)
#24 of 601 Re: 2006 C230 Lease [tiks102] by Car_man HOST Jan 31, 2006 (4:43 am)
Replying to: tiks102 (Jan 17, 2006 11:20 pm) Hello tiks102. According to the latest information that I have seen, if you were to lease a 2006 Mercedes-Benz C230 Sedan through Mercedes-Benz Credit right now for 39 months with 15,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00295 and 60%, respectively. If you can lease this car using the aforementioned program and with a selling price that is below dealer invoice you definitely are getting a good deal.   Car_man Host Smart Shopper / Prices Paid Forums
#25 of 601 Re: Does this look good for C280 4matic ? [assamese] by Car_man HOST Jan 31, 2006 (4:44 am)
Replying to: assamese (Jan 21, 2006 10:12 am) Hi Mike. I assume that the $42,045 price that you mentioned is this car's MSRP. If so, you never mentioned what the selling price of this car is. This is an important number for you as a consumer to know for two reasons. First, the selling prices of leased vehicles can be negotiated, just as if you were paying cash for them. Without knowing the price of the car that you want to lease you don't know how good a price you are getting it for. The second reason is that one needs the selling price of a vehicle that they want to lease is that it is necessary to calculate its lease payment. I would be more than happy to give you my opinion on this deal if you let me know what the selling price is.   Car_man Host Smart Shopper / Prices Paid Forums Replies to this message: assamese (Feb 03, 2006 7:55 pm) Car_man (Feb 19, 2006 7:41 am)
#26 of 601 Re: C230 Sports sedan lease deal and questions [madmanager1] by Car_man HOST Jan 31, 2006 (4:50 am)
Replying to: madmanager1 (Jan 24, 2006 9:16 am) Greetings madmanager1. According to the latest information that I have seen, if you were to lease a 2006 Mercedes-Benz C230 Sports Sedan through Mercedes-Benz Credit right now for 39 months with 12,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00295 and 62%, respectively. As you thought, the money factor that you were quoted is a little high - assuming that you qualify for Mercedes-Benz Credit's top credit tier.   As far as the rest of this deal goes, you are only being given a $1,000 discount on a car that has a spread of over $2,000 between its MSRP and invoice price on the base model (this is probably even more with options). You may be able to negotiate a lower selling price than this. I would shop around to see if you can do better. If there is a lack of competition in your area, you may not be able to.   Also, I notice that you are considering making a down payment on your lease. I always advise consumers against making any sort of down payment when leasing. I do so for two main reasons. The first is if your vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen during your lease, your insurance company pays off the bank that you were leasing it through and your down payment essentially disappears. The second main reason is that down payments on leased vehicles do nothing to reduce their lease-end purchase prices. So your lease-end purchase option price for your C-Class would be exactly the same, regardless of whether you had put $1,400 down, or had made absolutely no down payment at all.   Car_man Host Smart Shopper / Prices Paid Forums
#27 of 601 Re: C230 Manual [alexwalex1] by Car_man HOST Jan 31, 2006 (4:54 am)
Replying to: alexwalex1 (Jan 24, 2006 10:22 am) Hi alexwalex1. I believe that Mercedes-Benz Credit's base lease acquisition fee is $795 in all states. As a result, it appears as though the dealer that you are working with is marking up this fee by $200 to add a little extra back-end profit to your deal.   Using the numbers that you mentioned in your post, an MSRP of $32,865 and a selling price of $30,619, I estimate that this car's 39 month, 12,000 mile per year, $1,300 down lease payment should be around $376. So other than the minor acquisition fee mark-up, this looks like a pretty good deal to me.   Car_man Host Smart Shopper / Prices Paid Forums
#28 of 601 Re: One pay lease [milldoc] by Car_man HOST Jan 31, 2006 (4:57 am)
Replying to: milldoc (Jan 27, 2006 11:37 am) Hello milldoc. I'd be happy to give you an idea of how much you should expect to pay to lease, or one-pay lease in this instance, the car that you are interested in. However, in order for me to do so I need some additional information from you first, including how long you want to lease it for, how many miles per year you need to be able to drive it, its full MSRP, and an approximate selling price for it. You can find the MSRP of this car by visiting the following section of this site: Edmunds.com - New Vehicle Pricing. You should be able to get an idea of how much you may pay for it by visiting the following discussion: "Mercedes Benz C-Class: Prices Paid & Buying Experience". Let me know and I'll tell you how much this lease should cost you.   Car_man Host Smart Shopper / Prices Paid Forums
#29 of 601 Re: Does this look good for C280 4matic ? [Car_man] by assamese Feb 03, 2006 (7:55 pm)
Replying to: Car_man (Jan 31, 2006 4:44 am) Car_man, Thanks for your response..I negotiated the price down to $41045 (YES, $42045 was the MSRP)..this is the deal being offered:   Lease: 39 Mos, 15k/year Pay approx. $1900 up-front (1st Month payment $569 + DOC $199 + registration for 4 years $322 + acquisition fees $795 + sales tax $48) Monthly Payment: $569 Disposition Fees : $595   What do you think? Is the maintenance of the car included in the lease price...I forgot to ask   Thanks in advance. Michael Replies to this message: Car_man (Feb 19, 2006 7:41 am)
#30 of 601 Re: Does this look good for C280 4matic ? [assamese] by Car_man HOST Feb 19, 2006 (7:41 am)
Replying to: assamese (Feb 03, 2006 7:55 pm) You're very welcome, Michael. A base 2006 C280 Sedan with 4Matic has a spread of around $2,400 between its full MSRP and dealer invoice prices. You are being given a discount of $1,000 on the car that you are interested in. If you are in an area where there is a decent level of competition for your business, i.e several Mercedes dealers, I would not be surprised if you were able to beat this price by a little.   For now, I will estimate what this car's lease payment should be using the prices that you mentioned and Mercedes' actual lease program. According to my calculations, if you were to lease an '06 C280 Sedan with 4Matic with an MSRP of $42,045 and a selling price of $41,045 through Mercedes0Benz Credit right now for 39 months with 15,000 miles per year, your zero down, pre-tax monthly payment should be around $549. As you can see, this is a little lower than the payment that you were quoted. Mercedes-Benz made an unscheduled enhancement to its incentives on February 10th. I suspect that your lease was based upon the old program. Make sure the dealer that you're working with uses Mercedes-Benz Credit's current buy rate lease money factor for this model, .00185, to calculate your lease payment.   Car_man Host Smart Shopper / Prices Paid Forums

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