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#255 of 821 Question for Car_Man or anyone else with info. . .
by beautie
Jan 21, 2008 (9:53 pm)
I'm in the Los Angeles area and I'm trying to find out what the residual value and money factor is on a Mazda3 i touring sedan (4-door). I can do 2007 or 2008, whichever is better economically. Also, is it unreasonable to expect a dealer to sell/lease me the car at or below invoice? I thought I read somewhere once that dealers actually pay less than the invoice for their cars.
The other question I had -- if I think Wells Fargo will give me a better deal than Mazda's financing arm, and I ask the salesman to give me the WF number, is he obligated to do that?
Thanks for all your help. I love Edmunds.com and I've spent hours on these forums researching cars. Thanks to whoever started this site.
#256 of 821 How is this deal?
by proe
Jan 29, 2008 (6:46 pm)
2008 wagon s Grand Touring with AT, MSRP: $20,845
"The best lease that Mazda has to offer to you is the 24 month lease, the money factor is 1.46 and the residual is 63% at 15,000 miles per year. With 0 out of pocket the payment is $333 plus tax."
Thanks in advance.
#257 of 821 Re: Question for Car_Man or anyone else with info. . . [beautie]
by Car_man HOST
Jan 31, 2008 (4:27 am)
Hi beautie. I'm glad to hear that you like the forums so much
. Mazda is not providing lease support on 2007 models any longer, so you will be better off going with an '08. You never mentioned how long you want to lease for or what mileage allowance you need, so for now I will assume that you are interested in a 36 month lease with 15,000 miles per year. Let me know if you want something different. Mazda's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2008 Mazda3i Touring Sedan with 15,000 miles per year are .00194 and 57%, respectively. This is a special lease program that is being run by Mazda's captive finance company. I personally doubt that an independent bank will be able to beat this program, but I suppose that anything is possible. If an independent bank has a better program on it, the dealer will likely know about it and try to steer you in that direction. It doesn't hurt to ask though.
I am not personally all that familiar with what the market is like for the Mazda3 right now, but you are in a competitive market. If I was trying to lease this car in your area, I personally would probably shoot for a selling price of a couple hundred dollars over dealer invoice and see what happens. You may be able to get an idea of how much you will have to pay by checking out how much other community members have paid for similar cars over in the "Mazda3 Prices Paid and Buying Experience" discussion.
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#259 of 821 Re: How is this deal? [proe]
by Car_man HOST
Jan 31, 2008 (4:41 am)
Hello proe. The money factor that you were quoted looks good. It is right in line with Mazda Credit's current buy rate for this model. You never mentioned what this car's selling price and MSRP are though. These are important numbers for you as a consumer to know for two reasons. First, the selling prices of leased vehicles can be negotiated, just as if you were paying cash for them. Without knowing what this vehicle's selling price is in relation to its MSRP you don't know how much of a discount you are getting on it. The second reason is that one needs the selling price and MSRP, including the destination charge, of a vehicle to calculate its lease payment. I am sure that myself or some of the other community members who frequent this discussion would be more than happy to give you their opinion of this deal if you provide us with these numbers.
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#260 of 821 Any Mazda3 lease updates?
by azbriank
Mar 28, 2008 (7:42 am)
Car_Man, do you have any new lease numbers for the Mazda 3's?
Say 36/39/42 (whichever is most advantageous) on a 4door S GT?
Thanks!
#261 of 821 HELP!! Should I end my lease early??
by rctennis3811
Mar 31, 2008 (1:39 am)
Hey guys,
I have a 2006 MAZDA3s GT fully-loaded hatch that my mom got for me as an early 17th birthday in April 2006. It is currently a lease with Mazda Credit 12,000 miles/year for 3 years. As of RIGHT NOW, I have only 6,000 miles left for the whole year (remember, my lease expires April 2009.) Now I do not want to keep this car as my car for the rest of college because both my mom and I want my next car to have stability control after witnessing its usefulness in both her 2004 Acura MDX and 2008 Infiniti G35. So here's my dilemma: Can I do an early lease termination, and if so how and should I do it?
-I've gone to a couple of dealerships (including another Mazda dealership where I did not get this 3 from) and they have all said that they can assist me in my early lease termination. Is this true? The Mazda dealership where I got the 3 from said that I had to return the car to THEM and nobody else.
-I was told that by doing an early lease return somewhere this summer would put me in negative equity. Can somebody else elaborate? How do I calculate how much negative equity would have to be rolled into a new car?
-On Mazda Credit's website, they talk about lease-end procedure and how I can purchase the car outright at the end. Does that mean that whatever the agreed-upon price of the vehicle when we signed the lease can be split up into monthly payments as they are now?
-Is it true that at the end of my lease that if I just leave the car with them and not pick up a new car that I have to pay?
PLEASE HELP GUYS!! I'm really confused as to what to do with my situation. Any advice is appreciated!!
#262 of 821 Re: HELP!! Should I end my lease early?? [rctennis3811]
by qbrozen
Mar 31, 2008 (11:57 am)
1. Yes, any dealer can get you out of your lease early, not just a mazda dealer, and not just the dealer you leased from.
2. negative equity is the difference between the value of the car and what you owe. Leases can be terminated in 1 of 2 ways. Paying all the payments NOW and getting out of it ... so 12 payments in your case, I presume. OR a dealer you trade it to actually buys it from Mazda at your current buyout and gives you credit for its trade value. This is the preferred method only when the current trade value exceeds the end-lease buyout. So, for instance, if your buyout a year from now will be $10k, but the car is CURRENTLY worth $12k on a trade, then they but it from Mazda for, say $16k, and you have to roll the $4k negative into your next car.
3. Yes, if you decide to buy the car at the end of the lease, I'm sure Mazda credit will work with you on a finance contract .... or you just go to a bank.
4. Whether you pay at the end or not depends on your contract, miles driven, and excess wear and tear. Some contracts have a fee at the end for turning it in, which would be added to the fee for your excess miles and/or excess wear and tear.
You have a lease allowing 36k total miles. You've driven 30k and have a year to go. That means, at your current rate, you will go over by 9k miles. If I assume a 15 cents per mile charge, you would owe $1350 at lease end in excess mileage charges.
If I were in your shoes, I would try to wait as long as possible and see where you are at at that time. Once you get to ... say 35k miles ... then weigh your options again. It may be worth it just to pay the excess miles and finish the lease rather than roll too much negative equity into another vehicle.
Without knowing your payments or buyout, its very difficult to give you any advice other than that.
#263 of 821 Re: Any Mazda3 lease updates? [azbriank]
by Car_man HOST
Apr 24, 2008 (2:14 am)
Hi azbriank. According to the latest information that I have seen, Mazda's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2008 Mazda3 s 4-door with 15,000 miles per year are .00165 and 53%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 39 month lease are .00155 and 50%.
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#264 of 821 Re: Any Mazda3 lease updates? [Car_man]
by mazdabuyer08
Apr 27, 2008 (8:38 pm)
Are the numbers for leasing the mazda 3 touring value edition with automatic the same as you describe for the mazda 3s?
What is a good monthly payment for a 36 month lease on a mazda 3 auto touring value edition with a small $1500 or $0 down payment?
THX