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Re: Lexus RX350 Lease Questions [val3ntin3s] by Car_man HOST
Sep 27, 2006 (2:04 am)
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Replying to: val3ntin3s (Sep 25, 2006 10:40 pm)

Hi val3ntin3s. It is likely going to be fairly expensive for you to get out of your ES 300 lease now if it is not scheduled to expire until April of next year. If I was in your situation, I would wait until I was closer to the scheduled end date of my current lease to get something new. If were to lease a base 2007 RX 350 AWD through Lexus Financial Services right now for 36 months with 15,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value would be .00175 and 56%, respectively assuming that you qualify for its "Tier 1+" credit tier. The numbers for an otherwise identical 48 month lease should be .00175 and 47%. LFS base lease acquisition fee is currently $600. I don't believe that it charges a disposition fee.
 
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Is this a good deal ? by mxv2003
Sep 29, 2006 (10:52 am)
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Thanks Car_Man. Great service your performing and best site I've seen on the web so far.
 
Is this a good offer?
 
2007 RX350 AWD w/ NAV
MSRP $45683
Sell price $40450
MF .00185
Residual 58%
12K lease/36mons
Monthly $501.75
Tax upfront(7%) $1320.06
Due at signing: $2898.51
 
The Money Factor from LFS on this board is .00175, but the dealer is quoting .00185 for LFS. The numbers don't add up when I plug into my lease calculator. $501.75 sounds too low.
 
I'll be heading into the lion's den tonight so if anyone has any advice, please post ASAP.
 
Thanks.
-mxv2003
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Re: Is this a good deal ? [mxv2003] by mxv2003
Oct 02, 2006 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: mxv2003 (Sep 29, 2006 10:52 am)

Ok. I got the following deal
 
MSRP $45683
Base Cap $40353
MF .00175
Residual %58
12K/36Mo
Monthly $501.75
Due at Signing $2898 (includes tax,1st mon, Bank fee(I know), MV fees.
#236 of 1571
What's wrong with this picture? by jack1963
Oct 05, 2006 (4:57 pm)
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Hi.
 
My local Lexus dealer gave me the following figures for a 2007 RX350 FWD, premium plus, navigation, heated seats, 18-inch tires:
 
MSRP: $44,306
Sell Price: $42,100 +TTL = $45,030
36 month/12K lease
Monthly choices: $780 with $0 down, 1st month due at signing; or $699 with $2641 down plus 1st month's payment
 
No other details were given (MF, residual). This seems way off from the other lease offers I am seeing here.
 
Can someone help me figure out what is going on with this deal??
 
Thanks!
#237 of 1571
What is wrong answer by prof_dave
Oct 05, 2006 (5:07 pm)
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What is wrong with that is the sell price. people have been getting 41,200 or even lower.
 
the formula is pretty simple
 
Take the sell price + residual factor ( in your case 58% of the MSRP) then times that by the money factor .00175 if you have Tier 1+ credit (about a 730 or higher) if you have Tier 1 then you use a money factor of .00185.
 
Ok, you take that number then
 
take the sell price minus the residual factor divided by 36
 
add the two numbers together and then you have your lease basic cost.
 
If you say put 2500 down, you are basically subtracted from sell price. so if it was 42,000 for example, now you put in 39,500.
 
So, the sale price will dictate a lot.
 
it took me 5 or 6 dealers to finally get a price that I liked.
#238 of 1571
Re: What is wrong answer [prof_dave] by jack1963
Oct 05, 2006 (5:32 pm)
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Replying to: prof_dave (Oct 05, 2006 5:07 pm)

Thanks for the quick reply and good info.
 
Am I doing something wrong with the math? I come up with about $571 as a monthly payment with $0 down (based on the figures given) rather than $780 using Tier 1+ credit.
 
If I am figuring it right, my Lexus dealer would seem to be making a nice profit on such a deal.
 
Thanks again!
#239 of 1571
Lexus RX350 by cknodle
Oct 16, 2006 (6:13 am)
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Working on Leasing a new 2007 RX350...FWD, Premium+, NAV
MSRP: 44,125
3Yr/15K
Residual: 57%
MF: 1.2% (I didn't understand what this meant)
 
Went to the dealership, found the car, and tried to negotiate with the dealer, but he said he would not negotiate the purchase price of a leased vehicle. I then got an email from him reiterating his stance (added below). Looking for 1) How to respond 2) what a good target for negotiating price would be 3) what 1.2% meant for the money factor.
Thanks for any help....chad
 
Email from dealer
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Good morning Chad,
 
I thank you for your correspondenceand hope you had a nice weekend.
 
I am a bit confused on your intent because leasing is all about payment becuase you are not purchasing the vehicle, the bank is.
#240 of 1571
Re: Lexus RX350 [cknodle] by dannyly
Oct 16, 2006 (9:02 pm)
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Replying to: cknodle (Oct 16, 2006 6:13 am)

I just leased my RX350 FWD Premium with Navi in Miami.
Here's the deal I got over the internet.
 
MSRP: $44,125
Cap cost: $39,500
Residual: 57%
MF: .00175
Terms: 36mo/12K
Lease: $539/mo with $800 inception cost
 
I don't know if it was a good deal but that's the best I found down here in south Florida. I just wanted to post my numbers because it helped so much reading this thread. Is the calculations correct. For some reason when I did it, it was different from the Lexus finance guy (on his computer).
 
Dan
#241 of 1571
RX 350 in DC by zigthis
Oct 17, 2006 (7:57 am)
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Hi CarMan, group!
 
How does this deal look:
RX350 w/ Premium, NAV
MSRP: $45,683
Cap cost: $42,183 (Discounted $3,500 off list)
Residual: 48% (is this right?)
MF: .00175
Term: 48mo/12K
Lease: $534/mo. + Tax/Fees/First-Month up-front.
 
I can't help but think they can do better on the sale price, but they tend to sell fast inside the beltway. Also, How does the Totyota/Lexus MSD program work? The salesman was reluctant to explain the details ("..it won't make much of a difference"). How many deposits can I make?
 
I calculated five MSDs (at $550/mo.) to be $2,750 deposited, which (at .00010 each) would bring the MF down to .00125 and my payment down to $502 (Goal!). Making 14% a year by letting them hold $2,750 sounds good to me...
#242 of 1571
Re: Lexus RX350 [dannyly] by cknodle
Oct 17, 2006 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: dannyly (Oct 16, 2006 9:02 pm)

Maybe someone can help us both out...what I get is:
Residual: 44,125 * .57 = 25151.25
 
(39500 - 25151.25)/36 = 343.02
(39500 + 25151.25) * .00157 = 109.64
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                              452.66
 
Of course this is not including any TTL, but how can I be that far off? Can someone please correct me?
 
Chad

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