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Re: Just leased (with an option to purchase :) [sxylxy] by Car_man HOST
Aug 02, 2006 (2:03 am)
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Replying to: sxylxy (Jul 27, 2006 11:35 am)

Congratulations on your new truck, sxylxy. The money factor and selling price that you mentioned in your post look good to me. You never mentioned your monthly payment though. Enjoy your new truck!
 
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Re: August numbers from LFS [ebg] by Car_man HOST
Aug 02, 2006 (2:11 am)
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Replying to: ebg (Aug 01, 2006 11:23 am)

Hi ebg. 48 month leases are not more popular for three main reasons. The first is that many automakers do not provide lease support on 48 month terms. This is the case with Honda and Toyota. I suspect that they don't provide support on 48 month leases because they want their customers to come back and get a new vehicle sooner than that, which makes sense. This isn't an issue with Lexus because its special money factors are available for up to 48 months. The second main reason is that 48 months is longer than many vehicles' full warranties. Many consumers don't want to drive a vehicle that doesn't have full warranty coverage for the last year of their lease. Again, this is not a problem with Lexus because its models come with 4 years / 50,000 miles of full warranty coverage. The third reason why 48 month leases are not more popular is that 4 years is a long time to drive one vehicle for. Consumers who lease tend to want a new car or truck every couple of years. It's usually fairly expensive to get out of leases early.
 
If you were to lease a 2007 Lexus RX 350 AWD without navigation through Lexus Financial Services right now for 36 months with 12,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00175 and 59%, respectively. Just in case you are interested, the numbers for an otherwise identical 48 month lease of this truck are .00175 and 50%.
 
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Re: To hybrid or not to hybrid? [dmemmolo] by Car_man HOST
Aug 02, 2006 (2:16 am)
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Replying to: dmemmolo (Aug 01, 2006 5:02 pm)

Hi dmemmolo. Many consumers find that the savings in gas that they experience from purchasing a hybrid vehicle does not justify the premium that they have to pay for it compared to a similar non-hybrid model. I would be happy to calculate the difference in lease payments between the RX 350 and RX 400h that you are considering if you provide me with their full MSRPs and approximate selling prices.
 
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Re: To hybrid or not to hybrid? [Car_man] by sxylxy
Aug 02, 2006 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Aug 02, 2006 2:16 am)

Hi again Carman,
 
My monthly payment is $639 with zero down (just DMV & 1st month). I have the NAV, Mark Levinson, 2WD, RES (had to get that...darn!...18" alloy wheels and heated seats).
 
Thank you for all of your terrific info.
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Leasing during "Golden Opportunity Sales Event" by sdani
Aug 06, 2006 (5:10 am)
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Greetings all,
 
Does anyone have the Money Factor / Residual details that Lexus is offering during the "Golden Opportunity Sales Event."? This is what I got from a NJ dealer yesterday, but I wanted to know more details like MF & Residual etc, so that if I negotiate on the final price, I know the rest of the calculation is correct.
 
RX350 - 2007
Base Model with Standard Premium Package, Destination Charge + 2-3 small standard additions (All cars come with these - per the SalesMan) -
MSRP -> 43033
Sale Price (till Sept 4th) -> 39723
12K per year
2500 Capital Cost Reduction
1767 Inception Fee - Including 1st Month Fee
$449 per month + TAX.
 
Based on the TMV price on Edmunds, I am okay with 39723 Sale Price, but I would like not to pay 2500 Capital Cost reduction, and thus would like to know the factors / numbers used to recalculate if I don't want to pay that price.
 
Also, is the inception fee standard or can I negotiate in any of these fees:
Total 1767 - I don't know how it breaks up, because the sum does not match, but this is what they gave me:
Bank Fee -> 600
MV -> 360
Window Wetch -> 169
Documentation Fee -> 199
Credit Check -> 15
Tire Tax -> 7.80
Some other local tax -> 8.30
 
Thanks for your time.
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Re: Leasing during "Golden Opportunity Sales Event" [sdani] by maximafan
Aug 06, 2006 (4:08 pm)
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Replying to: sdani (Aug 06, 2006 5:10 am)

Hi, Sdani. I test drove the RX350 today, same options as the one you're looking at, and I also test drove the IS250 and ES350. I ended up liking the RX350 the best out of the three
mainly because it has better flexibility and I
felt it had the best power of the three.
 
I was given a figure for a monthly lease payment of around $540 per month based on
$3000 total put down. This would include the
inceptions and a small cap cost( I'm guessing
of around 1500 to 1700.) But I need 15k a
year; and, thus they're coming up with the
$540 instead of $520.
 
Are you saying they want you to put $2500 down
plus the inception fees? That would make your
total down payment of over $4267. Of course,
that would explain the low monthly down payment.
 
In our local newspaper here in the Tampa Bay
area, Lexus is advertising a monthly lease
payment of $458/month with $3999 down for
48 months, 12k a year.
Incidentally, my lease offer is for 48 months
also. How long is your lease offer for?
 
I really hate to have to put anything down over
and above the inceptions fees. But then I'd
probably be talking about a monthly payment of
over $600 on a model that only has the premium
package. I was also surprised at how much the monthly payment jumps to get a 15k/year lease!
 
I forgot to add though that your vehicle may have a few more options than the one I'm looking at because my vehicle's MSRP is around
$40,000 and the selling price is $37,000 and
some change. So yours might sound a little better. It sounds like you might be getting
the premium plus instead of just the premium
model???
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Re: Leasing during "Golden Opportunity Sales Event" [sdani] [maximafan] by sdani
Aug 06, 2006 (7:13 pm)
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Maximafan,
 
It may be Premium Plus. I did not go in details because I visited two dealerships and they both said that this is something which comes prebuilt in NorthEast, i.e. the only two options I have is Navigation & No Navigation. The NoNavigation is 43033 sticker (AWD) and Navigation is an extra 2600.
 
As far as the lease, I don't think that I will pay the 2500 down. I will adjust it in my lease payments. The total cost that the dealers are asking beyond the sale price is between 900-1300 in NJ. This includes 600 Bank Fee, which some has mentioned as Acquisition Fee in other forums (non lexus and lexus). Th ethink the 199 documentation fee is something which I won't like to pay, but I would rather negotiate on base price.
 
Based on information I have so far, here is the Golden Sales Event in NJ -> I may be wrong so wait for Car Man to confirm:
 
MF = .00175
Residual =
58% (36 month 12K/year)
56% (36 month 15K/year)
49% (48 month 12K/year)
47% (48 month 15K/year)
Remember to calculate the residual on MSRP (sticker price).
 
UpTo 9 MSDs are allowed which can bring down the MF by 85 to 90 points, i.e. .00090.
 
Now using these numbers you can calculate your numbers.
 
Thanks
sdani
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Re: Leasing during "Golden Opportunity Sales Event" [sdani] [maximafan] [sdani] by sxylxy
Aug 06, 2006 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: sdani (Aug 06, 2006 7:13 pm)

Now that the dust has had time to settle on my lease from two weeks ago, I have a question:
 
The dealer and I finalized the MSRP (the options),color, and the payment that I was looking for over the phone. I had a higher MF and a higher residual in my calculations. The fact that the MF and residual % were lower at the signing didn't make much difference to me. I figured that at least I'd have a lower purchase price in three years if I decide to buy.
 
Since we agreed on the phone, I don't plan to ask the dealer this question. Isn't the residual set by Lexus itself? Why would I get a 54% residual, instead of the 56% that Lexus set?
#196 of 1570
Current money factor by jsmil4901
Aug 14, 2006 (11:39 am)
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Hi does anyone know what the current money factor is for a 36 month lease with 15000 per for the RX350 AWD with the premium plus package?
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Re: Current money factor [jsmil4901] by amcar
Aug 16, 2006 (5:49 pm)
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Replying to: jsmil4901 (Aug 14, 2006 11:39 am)

I leased a 07' RX 350 last month. AWD + Prem Pkg Here's the deal.
 
MSRP: 45,683.00 Gross Cap Cost: 40,431.00
 
Residual val: 57%
15K miles/year
$455.00 /mo for 36 mo
 
Out of pocket:
Taxes upfront: 1202.00
Doc fee: 199.00
Bank fee: 600.00
DMV: 270.00
Tire: 7.30
First mo: 455.00
9 MSDs: 4275.00
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Total: 7009.00
 
Disp fee at end: 0

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