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Land Rover Range Rover Sport Lease Questions

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Re: surfd90 [kyfdx] by mssurrey
Nov 17, 2005 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Nov 16, 2005 7:28 pm)

Kyfdx,
 
I thought that the whole point of leasing was that you only have to finance that portion of the car that you use/lease for the period that it's kept.
 
I don't understand the 'average' that you state as the finace charge over the period that I lease the vehicle should cover the bank's cost of buying the vehicle and having equity tied up in the vehicle which is realised at the end of the lease.
 
If I'm being asked to finance the 'entire' cap cost amount for the 2.5 year period, then is it not worth just buying the vehicle outright?
 
Also, if I purchase the vehicle at the end of the lease, I've already paid the bank its finance charges for leasing me the vehicle AND, in effect, for purchasing the vehicle for me 2.5 years earlier...???!!!
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Re: surfd90 [mssurrey] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 17, 2005 (4:31 pm)
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Replying to: mssurrey (Nov 17, 2005 2:52 pm)

The idea of leasing is to just pay for the depreciation that you use over the lease term.. The bank has to put up the entire purchase price, so you are paying finance charges on the entire vehicle for the time that you are using it.
 
The bank can recover the residual value at the end of the lease by selling the vehicle, but the time value of their money is the same over the period of the lease.. It is no different than if you were purchasing the car, in that respect..
 
Consider the lease as a loan on the vehicle.. At the start of the loan, you are borrowing $58,XXX.... and, at the end of the 30 months, you still owe $42,XXX.... You turn the car back into the bank...to pay off the loan.. But, the loan balance was between $58,XXX and $42,XXX the entire time that you leased the car.. That is the amount that you are paying finance charges on...
 
All that said... the lease program on the Range Rover is not very good... I think if I were interested in this vehicle, I'd buy it and finance at a lower rate than the lease equivalent of 8.2%.
 
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kyfdx
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#23 of 384
RRS HSE by hvf
Nov 22, 2005 (2:47 pm)
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Hi Car man could you check this :
 
RRS HSE 06
Luxury package + bluetooth ( no satelite radio, no DVD )
MSRP 60150
Sell price 57500
LEV 67%
MFSR 0.00315
bank fee 595
COD 2710
monthly 903.39
 
can we do better
by the way on the message about the LR3 HSE selling price on that is 53208
 
Thanks
#24 of 384
RRS Lease by hvf
Nov 22, 2005 (7:43 pm)
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term 30 mts
mileage 15000 miles/yr
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Re: surfd90 [kyfdx] by mssurrey
Nov 23, 2005 (10:12 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Nov 17, 2005 4:31 pm)

Kydfx,
Does the Depreciation percentage figure, and hence the basis for lease calculations, work from the MSRP or from the adjusted (negotiated) cap cost?
 
If I get better discount off the MSRP, this means my monthly payments will be lower right, as I'm now 'financing' a lower amount? Or does a bigger discount simply mean that the Depreciation figure also 'reduces'?
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Re: surfd90 [mssurrey] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 24, 2005 (4:19 am)
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Replying to: mssurrey (Nov 23, 2005 10:12 pm)

The residual percentage is always figured from MSRP.. Which makes sense... no matter what selling price you negotiate, high or low... it isn't going to affect the actual value of that car at the end of the lease term...
 
This is a good thing... Every dollar that you save in negotiation goes straight to your bottom line, as a dollar saved in depreciation... and that is the main part of the savings.. But, you'll save some in finance charges, because your cap cost will also be lower..
 
Example: Joe Blow negotiates a $75,000 selling price for his RR Sport... on a 3yr lease with a money factor of .0030... John Doe leases the same car, for the same term, but negotiates a selling price of $74,000... John Doe's lease payment will be $30.78 per month lower than Joe Blow.
 
$27.78 of that is lower depreciation ($1000/36pymts).. The other $3.00 is due to a lower amount "financed" ($1000 X .0030).
 
Leasing is no different from buying.. Every dollar you lower the selling price, goes right into your pocket..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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#27 of 384
RR sport lease quote by hvf
Nov 24, 2005 (11:08 am)
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Could someone tell me if this is an aceptable offer, I thought that selling price could be lower
RRS HSE 06
Luxury package + bluetooth ( no satelite radio, no DVD )
MSRP 60150
Sell price 57500
LEV 67%
MFSR 0.00315
bank fee 595
COD 2710
monthly 903.39
30 months / 15,000 miles / year
  
can we do better
by the way on the message about the LR3 HSE selling price on that is 53208
  
Thanks
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RR sport lease quote by hvf
Nov 24, 2005 (11:09 am)
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Could someone tell me if this is an aceptable offer, I thought that selling price could be lower
RRS HSE 06
Luxury package + bluetooth ( no satelite radio, no DVD )
MSRP 60150
Sell price 57500
LEV 67%
MFSR 0.00315
bank fee 595
COD 2710
monthly 903.39
30 months / 15,000 miles / year
  
can we do better ?
 
  
Thanks
#29 of 384
Re: RRS HSE [hvf] by Car_man HOST
Dec 01, 2005 (3:20 am)
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Replying to: hvf (Nov 22, 2005 2:47 pm)

Hey hvf. I see that you are interested in a Range Rover Sport as well. I love this truck, but it is unbelievably expensive, both in terms of its price and terrible lease program. Right off the bat I can tell you that the lease money factor that you were quoted is a little high. You never mentioned how long you are leasing this truck for, but Land Rover Capital Group's buy rate lease money factors for the 2006 Range Rover Sport HSE vary from .00304 for a 24 month lease to .00260 for a 36 month lease. The selling price that you were quoted for this truck looks reasonable to me though. You are being given around a $2,600 discount on it. There's still a decent chunk of change left for the dealer, but I would not be surprised if that is what the market dictates for the Range Rover Sport right now.
 
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Upfront Lease on RRS by socalrover
Dec 19, 2005 (1:26 pm)
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I was thinking of leasing a RRS with lux package, bluetooth, and sat radio. If I want to get a 24 month lease at 10 k miles what should my cost be? I would like to pay everything upfront. I should get discounted for that I hope.

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