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102 messages,  Last post on Aug 27, 2008 at 3:20 AM

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Re: Please explain lease "rent charge" [jen_b] by kyfdx HOST
Jun 13, 2008 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: jen_b (Jun 13, 2008 1:04 pm)

Take your rent charge... $4331
Divide by the term.. 48 months.
Result: $90.23/month
 
Add your net cap cost and your residual amount. Just as an example.. $20K + $11K = $31,000
 
Divide $90.23 by $31,000 = .0029.. This is your money factor
 
Multiply .0029 X 2400 = approx. 6.96%.. This is the equivalent APR of your lease, assuming your CAP and residual are the same as above..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Please explain lease "rent charge" [kyfdx] by jen_b
Jun 13, 2008 (1:49 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jun 13, 2008 1:12 pm)

Thanks, my mind is turning to mush trying to calculate all this at the last minute. I calculated my current lease by your instruction at 6.48% APR, not as high as I was expecting.
 
We are currently being quoted a money factor of .00259/6.2% for an 08 Liberty Limited, I think that seems high based on the fact that we qualify at their top tier level. Do you think this seems high? We could probably find a better rate, but then we would have to give up some of the incentives, so...
 
Thanks for all your help. )
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Re: Please explain lease "rent charge" [jen_b] by kyfdx HOST
Jun 14, 2008 (4:23 am)
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Replying to: jen_b (Jun 13, 2008 1:49 pm)

I'm not well-versed in Jeep lease programs.. This is actually Car-man's gig over here in lease questions.. He has all of the inside information on the actual numbers.. I'm just familiar with the math..
 
He will roll through here periodically to answer money factor and residual questions..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Early Termination of Lease on 06 Liberty by cbam
Aug 10, 2008 (1:19 pm)
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I have three payments left on my 06 Liberty, I want to come out of the lease now. Will I just have to pay the 3 months payments, plus the $300 early lease termination fee or will I have other penalties?
 
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Re: Early Termination of Lease on 06 Liberty [cbam] by Car_man HOST
Aug 11, 2008 (2:11 am)
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Replying to: cbam (Aug 10, 2008 1:19 pm)

Hi cbam. As long as you make your final three payments, I don't see why you would have to pay any penalties.
 
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property tax by vsp
Aug 11, 2008 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jun 13, 2008 12:53 pm)

Hi: I was under the impression that once we signed the lease, the monthly lease payment includes any taxes. This month I got a bill, which they charged me extra $300 for the property tax. Is it common? or I misled about it. Since actual owner is leasing company, I thought they are supposed to be responsible for the property taxes, Well being the first time lease holder learning along the way.
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Re: Please explain lease "rent charge" [kyfdx] by citivas
Aug 26, 2008 (7:02 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jun 13, 2008 1:12 pm)

Repeated your post here to make it easier to follow my reply...
 
Take your rent charge... $4331
Divide by the term.. 48 months.
Result: $90.23/month
  
Add your net cap cost and your residual amount. Just as an example.. $20K + $11K = $31,000
  
Divide $90.23 by $31,000 = .0029.. This is your money factor
  
Multiply .0029 X 2400 = approx. 6.96%.. This is the equivalent APR of your lease, assuming your CAP and residual are the same as above..
  
regards,
kyfdx

 
What I want to understand in your example is what is the 6.96% applied against? In other words, what value exactly are you being computed the equivilent of interest against? II would have thought you should owe interest on the part of the car you are buying, or the depreaciation and amortization (i.e. the adjusted cap cost MINUS the residual value).
 
But in your example, for instance, that would be 20K-11K = 9K, But if I use a compound interest calculator against 9K over 48 months the monthly interest payment should be less than $30/month of the total payment, far less than the $90.23. So the "interest" must be calculated against something far larger than the amount being the equivilent of "borrowed" or used. The interest is larger even than if applied to the residual amount, but smaller than if applied to the entire value of the new vehicle.
 
Your help is appreciated.
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Re: Please explain lease "rent charge" [citivas] by kyfdx HOST
Aug 27, 2008 (3:20 am)
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Replying to: citivas (Aug 26, 2008 7:02 pm)

It's $20K + $11K
 
The amount that is financed is an average of those two numbers.. You start out borrowing $20K (the cap cost), and end up owing the residual amount (which is satisfied by giving the car back).
 
You owe interest on the whole car.. because, after all, you can't borrow just the part you use... you have to borrow the whole car... then, give back the part you didn't use.. Since you pay for the car as you use it, that amount gradually drops to the residual over the life of the lease.
 
So, technically, it is ($20K + $11K) divided by two.. But, the division calculation is accounted for in the money factor..
 
Hope that helps,
kyfdx

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