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Infiniti M35 / M45 Lease Questions

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What would you do? by rbfriedman
Jul 14, 2009 (7:49 am)
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I currently have an 07 M35 with adv. tech & nav. Because I traded in my old car (a crappy VW), my lease payments are currently $537/mo. My 2-year lease ends in November.
 
At dealership today, they tell me that I can turn the car in now, and they'll put in a nicely equipped (Tech/Nav.) 09 M35 for a little over $600/mo. No money down for me (just first payment), and I don't have to pay the remaining 4 payments on my current lease.
 
I could wait a little longer and enjoy the low payments on my current car, but it's very possible they run out of 09 cars by next month, and then I'm shut out of all these incentives.
 
(also considering a G35, but it seems like the MF is so high on the G and incentives so much lower that it's really not as good a deal. Thoughts?
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Car man Help Please! by mikeindallas
Jul 14, 2009 (3:48 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jul 06, 2009 3:24 am)

Car man, I need your invaluable opinion!
 
I am currently working a deal in Dallas on a base M35 w/splashguards, MSRP $46,830. I have a dealership that has so far been pretty up front about things offering a 43% residual and .00082 money factor on a 39 month, 15K/year lease. I am VPP (affiliate), so by my calculation, this vehicle should start with a cap cost of $43,616 if I am following the formula from Nissan's site correctly.
 
The deal information shows a cap cost of $40,590, which would appear to be pretty close to my calculated cap cost w/VPP, minues the 3K worth of rebates currently offered per Edmunds.
 
Here are my concerns/questions:
 
1) The money factor seems to be a bit higher (and the residual a point lower) than what you listed in another message for July - can you confirm what you had before was accurate?
 
2) Edmunds seems to think there is another $2250 (or $2225, Edmunds description contradicts itself) in cash to dealer lease support on this vehicle that my dealer is not talking about. Is that available with VPP and the other 3K in rebates, or is there some special rule that prevents that? I did not see anything in Edmund's description that said they could not be combined.
 
Also I am taking advantage of the pull ahead program to cover my last payment on my previous lease, which is due July 20th (thus the hurry now). I don't think the pull ahead program affects any of the lease numbers above, but wanted to mention it just in case.
 
Thanks!
 
Mike
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Re: Car man Help Please! [mikeindallas] by Car_man HOST
Jul 17, 2009 (2:37 am)
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Replying to: mikeindallas (Jul 14, 2009 3:48 pm)

Hey Mike. The dealership isn't being that upfront with you. The money factor that they quoted you is higher than IFS' buy rate. Its current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 39 month lease of a 2009 M35 with 15,000 miles per year are .00042 and 43%. The 36 month factor is even better at .00002 (44% resid).
 
The $5,000 dealer cash that Infiniti is providing on this car in July is not compatible with its special lease program. However, Infiniti is providing a $2,250 cash incentive plus an additional grand on base M35 models ($3,250 total) on leases of this car through IFS.
 
The fact that you are taking advantage of the pull ahead program should not have any impact upon the above numbers.
 
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Re: Car man Help Please! [Car_man] by mikeindallas
Jul 22, 2009 (6:17 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jul 17, 2009 2:37 am)

Thanks for the input, Car Man. I ended up getting them down a bit lower on the money factor, but not all the way down to the .00042. It seemed that the dealership that offered the .00042 rate did not have the car I wanted, nor would they apply the full $3250 in discounts, so the rates still ended up being higher with the better money factor. When all was said and done, I got a base M35 plus splashguards and trunkmat for $541/month for 39 months, with 15K/year and first month's payment and acquisition fee down.
 
BTW, other than the money factor issue, I would recommend Sewell Infiniti in Dallas. Much better scenario there than at Crest Infiniti in Plano where I leased my previous M in 2006.
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Re: Car man Help Please! [mikeindallas] by Car_man HOST
Aug 05, 2009 (2:11 am)
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Replying to: mikeindallas (Jul 22, 2009 6:17 pm)

No problem, Mike. Congratulations on getting your new M. Thanks for stopping back and letting us know how everything turned out. It sounds as though you had a positive dealer experience. You may want to hop on over to the Dealer Ratings & Reviews section of Edmunds.com to tell everyone about it.
 
Enjoy your new ride !
 
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August Residuals/MF for 36/12k? by rickwell
Aug 13, 2009 (5:33 pm)
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Can you provide the current IFS buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 & 39-month lease of a loaded 2009 M35 with 12,000 miles per year.
  
In July, Infiniti was providing a $2,250 cash incentive on leases plus an additional $2,000 to current Infiniti owners. Are these incentives still available?
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Lease M#% Good or Can do better? by jabat
Aug 16, 2009 (4:04 am)
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Car Man,
 
First post but long time reader. Can you tell me if this is a good deal or can I do better? Where is a good deal?
 
M35 fully loaded
List $53,035
 
Sell price $47,785
MF .00002
$1,000 for 1st payment and misc. fees
15K miles per year 36 months
Payment is $689.00
 
According to dealer, car is out of state and will need to go get it. I think they're trying to justify the pricing. Any advice is appreciated.
 
Thanks
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Re: August Residuals/MF for 36/12k? [rickwell] by Car_man HOST
Aug 26, 2009 (3:21 am)
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Replying to: rickwell (Aug 13, 2009 5:33 pm)

Here you go, rickwell. Infiniti Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a base 2009 M35 with 12,000 miles per year are .00002 and 45%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 39 month lease are .00042 and 44%.
 
The cash incentives that were available on leases of this car in July are still available.
 
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Re: Lease M#% Good or Can do better? [jabat] by Car_man HOST
Aug 27, 2009 (2:10 am)
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Replying to: jabat (Aug 16, 2009 4:04 am)

Welcome aboard, jabat. Let's take a look at this deal. The money factor that you were quoted is right in line with Infiniti Financial Services' buy rate for this model. That is a good sign.
 
Now let's take a look at the other important factor, this car's selling price. The car that you described, a 2009 Infiniti M35 that has an MSRP of $53,035 probably has a spread of around $4,350 between its full MSRP and its dealer invoice price. Add to this the $2,250 cash incentive that Infiniti is currently providing on leases of this model and this spread increases to around $6,600. You were quoted a discount of $5,250 on this car. That is probably around $1,350 over dealer invoice. That's not bad, but if you are in an area that has a decent level of competition, I would not be surprised if you were able to shave another couple hundred dollars off of this car's price.
 
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Tax Credits on all 2009 M's by sewellgsm
Sep 03, 2009 (2:46 pm)
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In Texas, IFS just announced they will extend tax credits on all remaining 2009 M's (both 35 & 45) from 9/3/09 to 9/08/09 - it is a short window, but you save about $50 off your payment.
 
I mentioned a few weeks ago - that if you were thinking about a 2009 M - don't wait. We are down to 5 left in stock and we are one of the largest Infiniti dealerships in the country! So, selection is drying up.
 
2010 should hits lots anyday now.

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