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#1639 of 1830
Re: Need help on MF, residual M35 [cnewhouse] by Car_man HOST
Sep 02, 2008 (2:10 am)
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Replying to: cnewhouse (Aug 26, 2008 4:30 am)

Hi cnewhouse. Here's the information that you're looking for. Honda Finance's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2008 Infiniti M35 2WD with 15,000 miles per year are .00002 and 58%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease are .00064 and 48%.
 
If you were to lease this car through IFS, at lease signing you would have to pay your first month's payment, a security deposit equivalent to that payment rounded up to the nearest $25 increment, IFS' $595 acquisition fee, and any required state taxes or fees.
 
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Carman help on Infiniti Lease-M35x by readyformyrl
Sep 04, 2008 (3:12 pm)
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Carman,
 
I was speaking with a local infiniti dealership in CT and he told me the 24 mos lease at 47k and change for a 50,800 car, now has a residual of 56% and the payment would be $857/mo with 1680 out of pocket, 12k miles. I have more details about the money factor at work, but it was low.
 
The best deal they had going was 39 mos at 1600 out of pocket 644 mo, these numbers included tax at 6%. I have the D plan and it seems like we are slightly above invoice but I'm not sure if he took the $2k cash if it's still available on leases.
 
The best deal was a 6k rebate on the car with my own financing which would be 4.25%. Any insight. The lease rates seemed high as he quoted Tier 1 for credit.
 
The car was an M35x with tech and xenon headlights.
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Re: Carman help on Infiniti Lease-M35x [readyformyrl] by ghstudio
Sep 06, 2008 (2:46 pm)
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Replying to: readyformyrl (Sep 04, 2008 3:12 pm)

The word that comes to mind is Ugh... Two months ago, a 2008 M35x could have been leased for about $550 including 7% tax...24 mo 12K.
 
First, with Plan D, you should be able to buy this car about $300 over invoice. Then, if you are a current Infiniti owner, you should subtract another $2K from that price to get the capitalized cost (and then you add in the administrative costs and the origination fee to this to get the total amount you are capitalizing).
 
The $2000 "loyalty money" is in addition to your Plan D....and that's pretty clear in the dealer explanation. However, you should be able to buy this car for invoice price even without plan D...so you might do better (as I did) forgetting the plan D (which is what I did, by the way). I paid invoice less $2000 for an M35. You should be able to get the same deal...forgetting plan D.
 
The second problem is that your out of pocket should be only your first months lease payment plus registration fees plus any taxes required by law....nothing else. That does not add up to anywhere near $1650.
 
So let me net this out....either find another dealer or walk into the sales managers office and tell him that you are serious buyer and you dont' want to be jerked around by sales droids.....and the first deal was almost insulting.
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Re: Carman help on Infiniti Lease-M35x [ghstudio] by readyformyrl
Sep 06, 2008 (4:49 pm)
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Replying to: ghstudio (Sep 06, 2008 2:46 pm)

Gh, thanks for your input...I sort of determined some of what you mentioned and I submitted requests to other dealers through Edmunds. The best I have recieved now is $1279 down and $604/mo from a dealer in NY. My local dealer showed me his screen and believes the $604 deal is not credible because the lowest he can go is $1500 down and $639/mo, but he'll match the deal if I show him authentic numbers from the dealer ( I think that's somewhat contradictory). Last year I had a deal with Advanced Tech, as you mentioned in the mid $500's and I was somewhat suprised when I saw these.... I'm in no rush and may sit on the sidelines until the end of the month to find the right car and right price. Any other thoughts you have are much appreciated, by the way, those numbers were based upon 39mos with 12k/yr. MSRP on the best deal $50885 MSRP, purchase price of car 45k+ and the money factor was .00046, but the dealer with the payment at $639 said the money factor was .00035. what is the the top tier money factor for 39 mos on the MX35 anyone?
 
Thanks!
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Re: Carman help on Infiniti Lease-M35x [readyformyrl] by ghstudio
Sep 07, 2008 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: readyformyrl (Sep 06, 2008 4:49 pm)

you are heading in the right direction. I think you are just wasting time at your local dealer. But, if you are going to continue to try to deal with him, ask him to tell you specifically what's included in that $1500 down payment...and get him to write down each item with the $'s. Also, I believe that infiniti's money factor is lower for shorter leases. If you are a current infiniti customer (eligible for the $2000 on a lease), I believe you should be able to lease that car for around $600 a month on a 24 month lease, 12K/yr with no extra money down....unless Infiniti has made major changes to their lease plan in the last month. Ask the dealer to run 24 months, 36 months and 39 months....then post all the results here. Don't just let them quote you one length.
 
Also post each dealer's MSRP, "selling price", and the money factors and residuals they are using for each lease term. We'll get to the bottom of this.
 
Too bad you are in NY where you can't use multiple security deposits to reduce the money factor...
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$6,000 Marketing Support by dwongswong
Sep 07, 2008 (8:03 pm)
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Can anyone tell me if the $6,000 marketing Support that Edmunds is showing can be used towards a lease or is it just for purchases only?
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Re: $6,000 Marketing Support [dwongswong] by readyformyrl
Sep 08, 2008 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: dwongswong (Sep 07, 2008 8:03 pm)

Purchases in cash or with your own financing..for the $6k.
 
Leases have 2k in rebates if you are an IFS customer, unfortunatley I'm not one of those.
 
Good luck!
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2007 M35X by BobL242
Sep 08, 2008 (4:46 pm)
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I have a couple of questions maybe someone can help me with. My local dealer has a used 2007 M35X, just under 11,000 miles, technology pkg, splash guards and trunk mat. Selling price $33,390. Is this a good price? Also would a dealer lease a used car? Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: 2007 M35X [BobL242] by Car_man HOST
Sep 09, 2008 (2:08 am)
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Replying to: BobL242 (Sep 08, 2008 4:46 pm)

Hi BobL242. I am not personally familiar with the values of used Infinitis, but you should be able to get an idea of whether the price that you were quoted is reasonable by stopping by the Edmunds.com Used Car Appraiser.
 
As far as leasing used vehicles goes, many manufacturers do lease Certified Pre-Owned vehicles. However their lease programs for used vehicles often lack the support that their new vehicle leases have. As a result, used vehicle leases often cost the same as, or are even more expensive than leases of similar new vehicles.
 
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Carman: Looking for help on M35 lease by stunatu22
Sep 11, 2008 (7:51 am)
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I've chosen a M35 AWD to lease but need help.
The TMV for the car has gone down to $42,346 after Sept 3rd from $44,782 (I think because of a $6,000 cash to dealer incentive?). Here is my question:
 
If the MSRP is $50,085 for the vehicle and the dealer is leasing it to me for $46,500 “capitalized cost” …Am I getting a fair deal???
 
The monthly payment will be $704 for a 39 month lease/12,000 miles per yr with only 1st payment and fees (total of approximately $760 down).
 
Thank you so much for your help!

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