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A Little Help Please by ram60
May 23, 2008 (6:29 pm)
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GHStudio, Et Al
 
I just came out of a 24 mth lease on an 06 M45 sport tech. like many folks I am now finding even an M35 is leasing about $100.00 higher than my previous deal
 ( The M45 was $499.99 base and $34.93 tax).
 
I have an offer on the table for the following:
 
M35 Sport / Tech
MSRP $50,105.00
Sales Price ( supposedly invoice) $45,714.00
Residual % 61
M.F. .00028
Term 24 mth
Miles / yr 15 K
 
Even with 2K in Loyality cap reduction , 2 MSD's and assuming for the moment $595 bank fee and $498 Doc Fee I end up with:
 
New payment 08 M35 $596.29 and $41.75 tx for a total payment of $638.24
 
Am I doing the math correctly?
 
If so is the residual decrease the primary factor in the payment increase?
 
Thanks in advance for the help/
 
Cheers,
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Re: M35 sport lease [ghstudio] by ltcadviser
May 23, 2008 (6:49 pm)
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Replying to: ghstudio (May 22, 2008 8:11 pm)

Never seen an M35x in Atlanta. No need for all wheel drive down here.
 
And yes I know the game all too well after being in F& I, on the desk, and holding the sales record of selling 46 cars in one month when I worked the floor.
 
The game is a damn waste of everybody's time, and because I know it so well it is all the more frustrating.
 
I have never bought a car through a salesperson in my life. The salesperson ends up just getting the car washed after the manager gives him the house deal.
 
I called IFS and extended my lease 90 days until October. It should be interesting to see the incentives then...The residuals will be lower, but there should be at least another $1000 incentive on the car plus ridiculously low MFs
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Re: M35 sport lease [ltcadviser] by ghstudio
May 23, 2008 (7:51 pm)
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Replying to: ltcadviser (May 23, 2008 6:49 pm)

ram60....in a word...yes, it's the reduced residual...your MF was probably just as low in 06 as it is now.
 
ltcadvisor: I am also thinking about extending my lease...but I don't think it will get very much better. If I extend, it's to see if the 09 mercedes c350 becomes a 305hp car..or to see if the jaguar XF price/lease becomes affordable (I love that car)...or to see the new FX or maybe the 2009 M will appear with a new transmission. On the other hand, there are some big changes coming in 2010 and maybe the best option is to lease another M for 24 mos and position for the 2010's....tough call. Of course if the lease on the 06 is less than a new 08...why not pay the lower price for a few more months....
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Re: M35 sport lease [ghstudio] by colslick
May 24, 2008 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: ghstudio (May 23, 2008 7:51 pm)

Amen! ghstudio
 I'm turning in 06 M35 and extended a month to see if May would improve things and bring me happiness - wrong. I'm dealing for invoice and the 3% May residual reduction ( I use msd so MF no impact) increased mo payment by $63.69. Even if they throw another 1K onto the current 2K w/ same lease factors in Jun it won't = the Apr payment (but would lower that $63.69 increase by $50.)I had 70% MF in 06 (21 mos) and at that time the 24 mo was 65%. Also considering the poor gas mileage I get the other carI'm looking at would save me $43.per mo $4/gal. We were lucky in 06, M35 has met reality, although when I sit in it I feel like I in a vintage Chris Craft and hate to part with it. Good luck with your decision.
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Re: M35 sport lease [ghstudio] by ltcadviser
May 24, 2008 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: ghstudio (May 23, 2008 7:51 pm)

I extended my lease from July to October because I felt to have my lease expire in the fall for years to come will be more advantageous than in the middle of the summer. First of all, many new cars are released in the fall, so you either can get a great deal on yesterday's news, or you can opt for the brand new release and stay current. Also, with summer vacations in June and July every year, i just don't want to deal with feeling pressure to make a buying decision when I would rather relax with the family.
 
It will be interesting to see if Jaguar has good deals on the XF. It is a sweet car, but I am 6'5" and don't fit too well in it. I don't think you can get into the XF for $600/mo. with no money down though. I don't think there are any cars with an MSRP of 52K that you can lease as well as the M. If anybody knows of any other cars, I would like to know. I love the M, though. Just pi$$ed that I can't get Sirius radio anymore to listen to the NFL games.
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New to leasing and the # of miles by rspier01
May 27, 2008 (3:53 am)
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We are looking to lease a new m35x. If you lease a car with 12k miles and the lease is for 39 mos, do you get 36k miles or 39k miles for the life of the lease?
Thanks
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Re: New to leasing and the # of miles [rspier01] by ghstudio
May 27, 2008 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: rspier01 (May 27, 2008 3:53 am)

12K is the number of miles you get per 12 months....or 1000 miles per month. Multiply 1000 times the number of months of the lease.....
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End of lease advise by shivan
May 30, 2008 (1:57 pm)
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My lease of a 2006 M35x is about to end in late August. My initial terms were 39 months, 15,000 miles per year. My end of lease purchase option is for $32,812. I looked on edmunds, my car which has 44,000 miles, is in excellent condition and is fully loaded(prem, nav, tech, spoiler, splash guards) is listed as $34,255 dealer retail, $31,576 private party, $28,874 trade-in. I like the car, would it be wise to purchase the car at that price(actually finance)? or just lease an 08 as my monthly payment is currently $639 and looks like people are getting better numbers on 08's.
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Re: End of lease advise [shivan] by ghstudio
May 30, 2008 (2:54 pm)
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Replying to: shivan (May 30, 2008 1:57 pm)

I would lease another X.....the residual and MF on the X are much better than on the regular M right now (who knows about June though) and there is $2000 that they will apply as if it's a captial cost reduction up front....so your capitalized cost should be about $1000 under invoice....then apply some multiple security deposits and you should get a very good deal. You also will get a newer, better navigation unit....and you will get a much more comfortable, adjustable passenger seat.
 
I wouldn't buy an 06 with that many miles with no warranty when I could lease for almost no finance charge and a residual that is more than the gas eating car will be worth in 2-3 years. BTW...check out the 24 mo vs the 36 mo lease...the MF is lower on the shorter lease.
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Re: End of lease advise [ghstudio] by djdez
May 31, 2008 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: ghstudio (May 30, 2008 2:54 pm)

See, now I am in the same boat too as my lease expires next month on my '06 M35x. I've been back and forth with dealers all week trying to get me to close on an EX35 or G35x. There's no way I'm paying close to $600/month on a new M when I'm only paying $525 now and can get a loaded G or EX for around $470/month ...
 
Now, about that $2000 loyalty. I STILL can't seem to get a straight answer. You are saying to apply it as a cap cost reduction up front, however every dealer has told me you CANNOT use it on a lease, only a purchase. Also, it's only available on the M, EX or QX56 ... I tried to apply to the M and after knowing I couldn't use it, I gave up on the M. Yet, I see people saying they are getting EX35's for $3500 below invoice. That would be taking into account the $2000 loyalty and the $1500 dealer cash. On a lease, the LOWEST I could get a dealer to go was $1750 below invoice - they said I could not 'stack' the $2000 loyalty with it - just like I've been hearing on the M too.
 
So .... DOES anyone know the TRUE answer about the $2000 loyalty? Can it be used on a lease, or not?!? And, if so - how? Could you actually get a selling price of $2000 BELOW invoice by using it - on a lease?
 
Thanks!

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