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#975 of 4731
Re: 2007 infiniti g35 sport [Car_man] by vmontiel
Jan 15, 2007 (7:31 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jan 15, 2007 3:47 am)

Thank you Car_man for your answer.
I have one more question.
sure I wait more time to see the quality on the new 2007 infiniti g35?
my infiniti its excellent its been a super car to me and the deal was great.
I lease my 2006 infiniti g35 msrp $36900 and change
for $445.00 including taxes.
for 24 months only
and only $845.oo out of my pocket.
so if I wait a little bit longer do you think I will get a chance to lease a 2007 sport with the auto transmition for the same deal, I have?(its about the same msrp.
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Re: Good deal? [jtla] by bucanole
Jan 16, 2007 (6:31 am)
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Replying to: jtla (Jan 15, 2007 1:45 pm)

Thanks for the feedback JTLA.
 
Well know that I think about it the deal was originally for 39 months when I was quoted the MF and the residual so that may have changed. What happened is I was leaving when the manager pulled me into his office and made the $500 over invoice deal but for 42 months, do these numbers sound consistent with my previous figures or does it sound like they dabbled with the residual? Also won't pulling the $1000 down raise my payments even though I put that same $1000 down as a deposit and lower the MF?
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Re: Good deal? [bucanole] by jtla
Jan 16, 2007 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: bucanole (Jan 16, 2007 6:31 am)

Placing the $1,000 as security deposit instead of down payment does raise the monthly payment, but the difference is that you get your $1,000 back at lease end.
 
I have yet to verify, but based on other posts here, Infiniti Financing reduces the MF by .0001 for each additional SD. I did a quick calculation with approx. $34,000 cap cost and .0020 MF. The increase is roughly $15 per month without down pay. Over the life of lease, you would pay $630 ($15x42) more but receive $1,000 at lease end. Essentially, you make $370 interest on your $630 investment. that is approx. 26% annual rate, tax-free. Perhaps more importantly, should your car be stolen or totaled, you still get your deposit back, whereas down payment is gone forever once you drive the car off dealer's lot.
 
See post #3913 and #3923 at below link.
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef0b873/3907
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Re: 2007 G35 Journey- premium pkg, tint, wood trim, satellite radio, spl [fitzgibbons] by fitzgibbons
Jan 17, 2007 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: fitzgibbons (Jan 15, 2007 8:52 am)

Dear Car Man and other posters:
 
Here are the final numbers on the deal I was quoted for 2007 G35 Journey- premium package, tint, wood trim, satellite radio, splash:
 
I received a quote with the following numbers in Las Vegas:
  
36 month lease
15,000 miles/year
0 down
$563 (includes tax of %7.75)
$19,902.40 Residual
Thank you. The agreed upon value for the car is $33,938 and the gross cap cost for my lease is $35,155.98. I was told that the MF was %.00196 and that the residual was 56%. Thank you for your opinion regarding this deal ASAP as I am supposed to sign on the deal today.
 
Eric
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Re: 2007 G35 Journey- premium pkg, tint, wood trim, satellite radio, spl [fitzgibbons] by bucanole
Jan 17, 2007 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: fitzgibbons (Jan 17, 2007 9:25 am)

Good luck with the response and the purchase Fitz. I am supposed to pick mine up today to but never really heard back on overall review of my deal. I actaually just got a call from the sales manager to review the deal and find out if we are set to go tonight or not. Here is how mine shows as of today and somethings just don't seem to add up.
 
MSRP 36900
Gross Cap 35791 (was originally told would get car at $500 over invoice or $34250, but $599 Aquistn fee and 595 bank fee brought up the number)
Cap reduction $1000
Adjusted cap 34791
Residual: 19899 or approx 54%
MF; .0024
Term :42
Tax- Florida 7%
current quoted payment $530.69
I think they have some numbers slightly off because I ran the numbers on the lease calculator linked below and came up with $519...
 
http://www.leaseguide.com/calc.htm
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Re: 2007 G35 Journey- premium pkg, tint, wood trim, satellite radio, spl [fitzgibbons] by sprinkler13
Jan 17, 2007 (11:07 am)
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Replying to: fitzgibbons (Jan 17, 2007 9:25 am)

I plugged your numbers into my spreadsheet and there seems to be a mistake somewhere. The MSRP on that car w/o tint is 35540.00 at 56% the residual is 19,902.40, however at that money factor and tax your payment would actually be around 572/mo. When I calculate it in at 57% the residual goes up to 20,257.80 and your monthly payment is now 562.91/mo. I'm going to assume that's the case. So, it looks like you are getting the best MF and residual right now (57% and .00196), so it comes down to how much they are charging over invoice to see if there is any other room to play with. By my calculations, assuming around 350.00 to cover the registration and doc fees, and 595.00 for the acquisition fee, it looks like they marked up the invoice of the car 1650.00 for dealer profit, tint, and probably things like wheel and airbag locks (approx. 190.00 for the locks). Not sure what they are charging for the tint, but depending on that you can probably get a good idea of how much over invoice they are charging and maybe squeeze a bit more out of them. I hope this helps. If you have anymore details about the extra things, it would make it easier to figure out where you can try to work them some more. Good luck.
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Here are the current Buy Rate MF and Residuals by sprinkler13
Jan 17, 2007 (11:11 am)
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2007 Infiniti G35 2dr Coupe / Instantly Compare Lease Payments HERE (1)
 
24 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 70% of MSRP – .00214 Money Factor Buy Rate
36 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 60% of MSRP – .00212 Money Factor Buy Rate
48 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 47% of MSRP – .00240 Money Factor Buy Rate
60 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 37% of MSRP – .00253 Money Factor Buy Rate
 
24 mo/12k mi – Residual Value 71% of MSRP – .00214 Money Factor Buy Rate
36 mo/12k mi – Residual Value 61% of MSRP – .00212 Money Factor Buy Rate
48 mo/12k mi – Residual Value 48% of MSRP – .00240 Money Factor Buy Rate
60 mo/12k mi – Residual Value 39% of MSRP – .00253 Money Factor Buy Rate
 
2007 Infiniti G35 4dr Sedan / Instantly Compare Lease Payments HERE (1)
 
24 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 68% of MSRP – .00186 Money Factor Buy Rate
36 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 57% of MSRP – .00196 Money Factor Buy Rate
48 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 46% of MSRP – .00238 Money Factor Buy Rate
60 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 38% of MSRP – .00259 Money Factor Buy Rate
 
24 mo/12k mi – Residual Value 69% of MSRP – .00186 Money Factor Buy Rate
36 mo/12k mi – Residual Value 58% of MSRP – .00196 Money Factor Buy Rate
48 mo/12k mi – Residual Value 47% of MSRP – .00238 Money Factor Buy Rate
60 mo/12k mi – Residual Value 40% of MSRP – .00259 Money Factor Buy Rate
 
2007 Infiniti G35 4dr Sedan Sport / Instantly Compare Lease Payments HERE (1)
 
24 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 66% of MSRP – .00216 Money Factor Buy Rate
36 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 56% of MSRP – .00193 Money Factor Buy Rate
48 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 43% of MSRP – .00245 Money Factor Buy Rate
60 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 36% of MSRP – .00257 Money Factor Buy Rate
 
24 mo/12k mi – Residual Value 67% of MSRP – .00216 Money Factor Buy Rate
36 mo/12k mi – Residual Value 57% of MSRP – .00193 Money Factor Buy Rate
48 mo/12k mi – Residual Value 44% of MSRP – .00245 Money Factor Buy Rate
60 mo/12k mi – Residual Value 38% of MSRP – .00257 Money Factor Buy Rate
 
2007 Infiniti G35 4dr Sedan X / Instantly Compare Lease Payments HERE (1)
 
24 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 68% of MSRP – .00197 Money Factor Buy Rate
36 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 57% of MSRP – .00211 Money Factor Buy Rate
48 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 44% of MSRP – .00239 Money Factor Buy Rate
60 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 38% of MSRP – .00259 Money Factor Buy Rate
 
24 mo/12k mi – Residual Value 69% of MSRP – .00197 Money Factor Buy Rate
36 mo/12k mi – Residual Value 58% of MSRP – .00211 Money Factor Buy Rate
48 mo/12k mi – Residual Value 45% of MSRP – .00239 Money Factor Buy Rate
60 mo/12k mi – Residual Value 40% of MSRP – .00259 Money Factor Buy Rate
 
Use the following formula to calculate a lease payment:
 
(Capitalized Cost – Residual Value) / Term = Monthly Depreciation
(Capitalized Cost + Residual Value) X Money Factor = Monthly Interest
Monthly Depreciation + Monthly Interest = Base Monthly Payment
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Re: 2007 G35 Journey- premium pkg, tint, wood trim, satellite radio, spl [bucanole] by sprinkler13
Jan 17, 2007 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: bucanole (Jan 17, 2007 10:47 am)

Aside from the 1000 dollar cap reduction are you paying anything else for drive offs? Registration, 1st month, sec deposit? The number they quoted you almost looks like they are rolling in the registration and doc fees...not sure what it's like in Florida, but in CA it's about 300 for registration and 45 for doc fees. Also, from what I understand the acq. fee and bank fee are the same thing, so they are just calling it two different things in order to add more to the cap cost. When I got my car we agreed upon a cap cost and then I added the fees. The only fees added on to the cap cost for me were acq. fee of 595, registration of 315, doc fee of 45, upfront tax of 50, and 190 for dealer add ons (wheel and airbag locks). The dealer add ons were unfortunately not negotiable. There were also a couple of minor things for like 8 bucks.
 
I plugged your numbers into my list with 500 over invoice which is actually 34388 (including dest. fee of 700). I then added in the acq. fee of 595 and your 1k cap reduction payment. With the residual and MF you quoted and their monthly payment, it means that there is about 1215 bucks OVER the supposedly 500 over invoice price. You should get an exact breakdown of each fee and dealer add on that is in there. I still don't think they should be charging you that extra 600 dollar bank fee. I think they are just adding the fee so you think you are getting it for 500 over invoice when in reality it's more like 1k over...which isn't bad, but they should call it exactly what it is.
 
Here is what your lease could look like if you were to say pay your acq. fee and doc fees up front. Again, this is assuming the same fees as in CA and FL might be different..you have to ask for the specifics. At 500 over invoice (34388.00), 54% residual, .0024 MF and 42 months, and paying the acq. fee, doc fee, registration, AND 1st month payment up front (approx 1500), I get a payment of 508.00/ month. Anyway, I hope that helps a bit. If you get the exact breakdown of fees it will make it easier to get exact numbers for you. My spreadsheet is dead on as I just completed my lease and my numbers matched theirs exactly when I had the right figures to plug in. Good luck!!
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Re: 2007 G35 Journey- premium pkg, tint, wood trim, satellite radio, spl [sprinkler13] by fitzgibbons
Jan 17, 2007 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: sprinkler13 (Jan 17, 2007 11:07 am)

Thank you so much for your wealth of information. Per your request, I will fill in some more details for you. I have an expiring 39-month lease (expires 1/21/07) on a 2004 Infiniti G35 Coupe with a residual of around $20,300. There is some body repair work to be done (the appraiser for my lease wrote $300). The dealer is buying me out of the lease and paying $20,500 which in effect applies $200 towards my lease. The Title, License and Registration are $28.25, acq. fee is $595 and the "fluff" of Doc Fee and VTR are $594. My credit is the top tier and the dealer is insisting that the residual is 56% for 36 months.
 
Could you please comment on my deal with my new information? Also, from where did you get the information that you listed regarding the Money Factor and Residual. I would love to be able to refer to the source during my negotiating.
 
Thank you again for your time and extremely helpful information. I truly appreciate it.
 
Eric
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Re: 2007 G35 Journey- premium pkg, tint, wood trim, satellite radio, spl [fitzgibbons] by sprinkler13
Jan 17, 2007 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: fitzgibbons (Jan 17, 2007 12:22 pm)

I'll have to try to work more specifics in a bit since I'm at work. But the MF and residuals are the IFS posted buy rates. This is the number IFS posts, but the dealer doesn't have to stick to it. They can try to mark it up. Also, if you are going with say a 39 month or 42 month lease, it will affect the residual and MF and those numbers aren't on that list. Here is the website where I got the numbers. http://forums.roadfly.com/forums/financing/
 
They can argue all they want, but if they say they are giving you the true IFS buy rate with no mark up than the numbers I listed are acurate. Also, the 600 bucks of fluff is just that. It seems that all dealers have about 200.00 in add ons whether it's for a VTR fee like window etching or for wheel locks, etc. You probably won't get that down. As for the doc fee, I know in CA it's regulated to 45 bucks, but when I talked to someone in Nevada they aren't regulated and were charging 399 for it. However, when I pushed them, they couldn't drop the doc fee, miraculously were able to drop the actual price of the car by 350 bucks....go figure

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