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Infiniti G37 Lease Questions

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#3604 of 4620
Dont lease, BUY a G35!!! by mtmikey
Aug 31, 2008 (4:29 pm)
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I have leased vehicles for years, everything from Fords to Volvos to my last two, an FX35 and now a G35. I have to tell you, if you are considering leasing a G, buy it instead. You will love this car and want to own it, not be renting it. I hate the idea that in another year plus, I will have to give it back!!
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Re: Dont lease, BUY a G35!!! [mtmikey] by SergeyM
Sep 01, 2008 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: mtmikey (Aug 31, 2008 4:29 pm)

Look at it this way. In 2 years your car will get its share of small dents, dings and will not look/feel new any more. NHV somewhat high even in a new G35 will become more noticeable and annoying when the car becomes 2 years old. The obsolete 5 speed (if you get an auto) tranny will become out of place in a near-luxury car. By that time the now upcoming G37 will be about to be replaced by a new G40 model. BMW 335/340 will have even stronger 330-340 hp engine. You'll be making more money and will be interested in 5-series or Infiniti M. You G35 will become an obsolete vehicle that you will have trouble trying to get rid of. Good news there will be some one who will HAVE to take it back, IFS. Leasing is great.
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G35 lease-turn in, under mileage by dlagent
Sep 01, 2008 (12:08 pm)
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I have a 2006 Infiniti G35 4-door. I leased it in January 2006 for 42 months at 15K miles a year (52,500 total). Lease is up July 2009 and I probably won't have more than 35K miles on it at that time.
 
I do not want to keep the car long term, so I'm wondering if I would be able to:
(a) Buy the car at the residual value stated in the lease (which I think is about $17K+ based on expected 52.5K miles) and then sell it for a profit, or
(b) Use the fact that I'm way under mileage and that the retail value of the car if the dealership resold it is probably quite a bit higher than the lease-end purchase price as bargaining power to get money off a new lease.
 
Anyone had any experiences with this that they could share?
 
Thanks in advance.
DLagent
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Re: September Lease and Financing figures???? [peekay1] by soupcon
Sep 01, 2008 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: peekay1 (Aug 29, 2008 8:07 am)

fwiw, the summer sales event on the infiniti website has no stated termination date. "ends soon," it says.
 
likewise with bmw on the 0.9%.... seems like they are hedging their bets in case they need to extend.
 
of course, the dealers are all saying it's over on the 2nd.
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got my new g37 today! by shinng
Sep 01, 2008 (8:00 pm)
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unfortunately, i suffered the consequences of past mistakes regarding my credit through a high MF, but never the less, i got it for under 600 a month which is what i was budgeting for. i'm 26 now so hopefully in 3 years, i'll get approved for tier 0/1 and get into the new g50 sedan (500HP) coming out in 2010.....my salesperson mentioned this and also mentioned it as a sedan, not coupe.....great thing is that i got the color i wanted, with the option i wanted (only moonroof no premium, extremely tough to find), for under invoice!
 
here's the deal (please note i'm in illinois where the tax is based on entire selling price of car which is noted in the cap cost)
 
g37 journey with only moonroof and trunk cargo net in liquid platinum
msrp 37475
invoice 34457
selling price 33757 (700 under invoice)
cap cost 36204.38 (includes 7.25% illinois tax on car)
residual 60%
mf 0.00405 (approved tier 4)
 
monthly payment: 589.73
 
due at signing: 1502.73 (1st months payment, bank fee, ert fee, doc fee, title/lic)
 
the dealer (lisle) and salesperson were so extremely friendly and courteous. i was in the dealership for about 25 min signing the papers, 10 min with the finance guy, and the rest of the couple hours was test driving, going over the car, and inspecting the car.
 
i'm upgrading from an impreza (not wrx) and all i can say is...vroom vroom. the power on this thing is amazing and i am absolutely loving it.
 
edit: thanks to everyone on this thread for great advice and great discussions overall.
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Re: Just want to confirm these lease rates are still good [peekay1] by Car_man HOST
Sep 02, 2008 (2:02 am)
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Replying to: peekay1 (Aug 20, 2008 10:38 am)

You're very welcome, Paul.
 
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Does residual price matter if you are sure not to buy? by shyamy
Sep 02, 2008 (7:12 am)
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Hi guys,
Am a total newbie here and trying to absorb all the lease jargon.
Had a quick question - the residual value seems to be a hot topic but if I dont intend to buy the car after the lease period ends, do I even need to worry about it? does it have any other implication?
  
Apologise if I'm repeating this question if it has already been raised. Appreciate any responses. thanks!
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Re: Does residual price matter if you are sure not to buy? [shyamy] by kingpcgeek
Sep 02, 2008 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: shyamy (Sep 02, 2008 7:12 am)

The residual has huge implications. A lease has two main factors, depreciation and interest. Depreciation is determined by taking the Cap Cost (what you are paying for the car) - Residual Value. So as you can see the higher the residual, the lower the payment.
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Re: Does residual price matter if you are sure not to buy? [shyamy] by madd66
Sep 02, 2008 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: shyamy (Sep 02, 2008 7:12 am)

I don' t intend to buy the car after the lease as well since many financial institutions and captive finance companies inflate their residual value to keep leases attractive (aka: subventing). But, as kingpcgeek stated the residual value is one of the key aspects to the leasing calculations.
 
I'd also add that many sales people have been trained to "sell" a monthly payment but if you don't know how they arrived at the number your positional power in terms of negotiation will diminish considerably. Plug numbers into online lease calculators or create your own spreadsheet and play with the numbers. You'll see how the residual value, cap cost, dealer fees, cap cost reduction (what you pay at the time of pickup) and money factor will impact the monthly payment.
 
For instance, when I first inquired about leasing a G37 Journey the first dealer wrote me back saying he would sell me one for $38383 but the monthly payments came out to $599 a month. I responded asking the dealer everything from the cap cost, all inception fees (dealer doc, tag, license, inspection acquisition, etc), MSRP, residual value and money factor. It turned out while the cap cost was low the dealer fees were extremely high (they were trying to recoup profit on the back-end) and the residual value was also not inline with what I was seeing on this board.
 
I just leased the G37 Journey with the premium and navigation packages from another dealer but ended up paying a higher cap cost ($39190) but almost no fees and the money factor and residual value were inline which made my monthly payments under $562 and saved me approximately $1443 in additional payments over the lease of the car (the number includes the acquisition fee and tax - I live in TX and have to pay in full upfront - into the car and only paid the first months payment at the time of signing).
 
So, as you can see there are many aspects of the lease calculation you'll need to consider.
 
Personally, when I wanted to lease the first time, I invested my time into understanding the lease calculation intimately...now days I find I have to talk to a F&I person since most salespeople (including managers) don't understand how to properly calculate leases...and really, it's not that hard!
 
I hope this helps!
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2008 G37 Sport 6mt Premium package lease by cubanato
Sep 02, 2008 (7:37 pm)
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I went to the dealership yesterday and was quoted a price of, so he says,
$38,000
12,000 miles a year
36 months
$1,000 down plus first month payment
7% sales tax in my state of NJ
$498+ tax so thats equates to $532.86 a month
 
this is with no negotiation, is this a good deal? is the $38,000 correct for this monthly payment? and what do you think is a good price?
 
Thanx

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