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Re: July rates for g35/g37 [kingpcgeek] by dwynne
Jul 14, 2008 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: kingpcgeek (Jul 14, 2008 12:24 pm)

IFS sent you the coupon or some Infiniti dealer sent you the coupon?
 
Big difference, since any dealer can make such an offer and just make sure to over charge you enough on the new deal to make up the difference. Or they just shrug when IFS bills you for the issues after you have already signed the new deal.
 
If it is from IFS, then I would assume it is legit. It could also be they always do this without a "coupon" or this could just be a "we are desperate" one time deal - I don't know. Coupled with the turn in "fee" this would be a good way to keep folks in the IFS fold since turning in a less than perfect car and NOT leasing a new one from IFS could cost you $850 more.
 
Always get a pre lease turn in inspection done so you get an itemized report (with prices) of what they might hit you with at lease end. Then you can decide if you want to fix items yourself or seek "forgiveness" or just pay them to fix it.
 
AHFC (Honda) is head and shoulders over these other lease banks, by the way. They offer $500 per item forgiveness and up to $1,500 per vehicle forgiveness and no turn in fees. It does not matter if you lease another Honda or not, but with that kind of attitude it is hard NOT to get another Honda .
 
Dennis
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Re: July rates for g35/g37 [gforce11] by dwynne
Jul 14, 2008 (1:11 pm)
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Replying to: gforce11 (Jul 14, 2008 12:46 pm)

Keep in mind that every time they lease a car they have to sell it twice - once to you and once when you turn it in .
 
They had really cheap lease deals on 08 Honda Pilots, for example, then pulled them in favor or finance / cash only deals once the 09 Pilot was set to launch. They have had cheap S2000 lease deals too, but pulled them for July (and they may not return, but who knows).
 
Any time sales are slow enough any captive bank can pull out a cheap lease deal to move cars, but they get 99% of them back at the end of the term. So at some point in the model year they may try to convince the customer it is much better to buy the car than to lease it. Generally when the new model cars arrive there are no deals - partly because of the left over prior year cars and partly because of all those "got to be the first one with the new model" folks that come in a buy. Once those folks have theirs and the prior model cars are off the lots, then they can start dealing on the new year cars.
 
For a 3rd party bank lease, the residual is highest at the start of the new model year and drops through out that year. The MF is tied to the lessee's credit rating and the cost of money. So if the MF was constant as was your price, then September is probably the cheapest time for a 3rd party lease. Captive lease banks don't follow any such logic - they set residuals artificially high and rates way low when they want to move cars - and can do it whenever it suits them. There were left over Infiniti Ms going for 0.00001 or something MF a couple of years ago.
 
Dennis
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Re: July rates for g35/g37 [dwynne] by kingpcgeek
Jul 14, 2008 (1:29 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (Jul 14, 2008 1:11 pm)

IFS sent you the coupon or some Infiniti dealer sent you the coupon?
 
It was IFS. They sent one at the 6 month mark, and then one again at the 3 month mark.
 
There were left over Infiniti Ms going for 0.00001 or something MF a couple of years ago.
 
EX35's are going for .00001 for 24 months and .00002 for 36 months through 9/2
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Re: Is is customary for dealer to take credit card deposit? [dwynne] by mitchelllll
Jul 14, 2008 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (Jul 14, 2008 10:52 am)

Thanks Dennis. I'll let the group know where we end up and what happens here.
 
Any insight on the deal itself? From what I've read and *assuming there are no surprises- this seems to be OK.
 
Thanks again, Mitch
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Re: July rates for g35/g37 [shinng] by kingpcgeek
Jul 14, 2008 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: shinng (Jul 11, 2008 8:23 pm)

For the heck of it I pulled up some numbers from the last year that I found at leasecompare.com. I'll have to use a G35X comparison since that's the only number I found for September of 07. It does look like August and September are bad times to lease. Which does not bode well for me having to get a new car by October 23rd.
 
It sure goes against logic that the residual on the 08 is lower in November then it is in March and April.
 
August 2007
2007 Infiniti G35 X Sedan
24 Month – Residual 67% of MSRP – .00169 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00207 Base Rate
 
September 2007
2007 Infiniti G35 X Sedan
24 Month – Residual 66% of MSRP – .00146 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00191 Base Rate
 
November 2007
2008 Infiniti G35 X Sedan
24 Month – Residual 69% of MSRP – .00241 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00245 Base Rate
 
March 2008
2008 Infiniti G35 X Sedan
24 Month – Residual 70% of MSRP – .00142 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00160 Base Rate
 
April 2008
2008 Infiniti G35 X Sedan
24 Month – Residual 70% of MSRP – .00142 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00160 Base Rate
 
July 2008
2008 Infiniti G35 X Sedan
24 Month – Residual 68% of MSRP – .00147 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00167 Base Rate
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Re: July rates for g35/g37 [kingpcgeek] by dwynne
Jul 14, 2008 (3:04 pm)
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Replying to: kingpcgeek (Jul 14, 2008 2:26 pm)

Here is my payment chart that runs from June 07 to April 08. click here
 
I have been real busy the last few months so it has not been update to reflect the latest rates, higher prices, and customer cash. Each of the cars is "purchased" at $500 over invoice and everything else paid at signing and no taxes. Each is the model shown plus premium pack.
 
Dennis
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Re: July rates for g35/g37 [dwynne] by kingpcgeek
Jul 14, 2008 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (Jul 14, 2008 3:04 pm)

I see an Accord in my future.
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Re: July rates for g35/g37 [dwynne] by shinng
Jul 14, 2008 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (Jul 14, 2008 9:34 am)

I just saw your excel sheet and that was very interesting to see, thanks for that. I must say it is disappointing to see/read that Sept was one of the worst. I guess I will have to start negotiating now through August at the latest.
 
Also, because there has been no information on the release of the 09 coupes, I surely do not want to wait for that to be announced. By that time, my lease might already be up.
 
Now I'm getting nervous about turning in my non-infiniti car at the end of the lease for scratches/minor dents/tire wear. Assuming this is the way to go, I will see if I can get an Infiniti dealer to buy this car or at least make the rest of the payments (which is only 1-2 more left) so that I can avoid having any excessive charges.
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Re: July rates for g35/g37 [gforce11] by medman3705
Jul 14, 2008 (7:16 pm)
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Replying to: gforce11 (Jul 10, 2008 8:32 am)

I am looking at a g35x, 24mo lease with 25K miles/yr. Options include nav, premium, tech or sport pkg, $2500 out of pocket, for $590/mo. MSRP $41280, SP $ 38,650, residual $26896. Good deal or Bad Deal? NJ Dealer.
Thx for help!
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Re: July rates for g35/g37 [dwynne] by purchasingsoon
Jul 14, 2008 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (Jul 14, 2008 3:04 pm)

cool chart dennis. would you say that in your opinion (using the g35 journey w/prem, for example), the trend in monthly payments probably trended back up to the 460-470ish range since april? not looking for an exact amount or anything, just curious if you think it has basically trended back up to where it was back in the beginning of the chart. very interesting!
 
given the state of the economy + gas prices, and the timing of the new models coming out soon, one would think they would be offering better incentives to push through more volume. i don't get it. i want the car but i have to be realistic-- if the leasing terms aren't that attractive, i have to take a hard look at the alternatives.

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