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G37 warranty by athens
May 18, 2008 (6:14 pm)
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Infiniti Warranty:
 
4 years/ 50K bumper to bumper
6/70K drivetrain
 
Need I say more.
 
Owners pay for wear and tear/ Lessee's pay for wear and tear.
 
You can only take a deduction for lease payment based on proportion of driving in the course of the business. That does not include driving commuting to work or pleasure driving. The IRS requires a log be maintained by the lessee for inspection.
 
Similarly the car owner can take a depreciation deduction for miles driven in the course of business.
 
I'm a trial lawyer who drives to various courthouses in a 60 mile radius from my office in Chicago. It accounts for about 60% of my total annual driving. My accountant states that for tax purposes there is no benefit for me to lease.
 
In response to Brian62:
6 yrs worth of lease payments divided by the maximum miles permitted (72K)=$0.48 per mile.
 
$40K purchase price financing - $20K (retail value after 6 years)/ 72K miles = $0.27
Infiniti NA is offering 1.9% financing for 36 months/ 3.9% for 60 mos!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Your absolutely right. The $/mile cost of the lease is not 100% more expensive than for the purchase, its ONLY 78% more expensive.
 
Who spends $4-6K in maintenance on a car they bought new with the Infiniti warranty?
 
My Mom and Dad each had mid 1990 BMWs they bought new. He still drives his 5 series and she sold her 3 series last year to buy a new 3 series. They drove each of those cars for 13 years and did not spend more than $6K COMBINED in maintenance, including a rebuilt tranny for the 5 series last year.
 
I bought my car with 70% down, and financed at 3.9% in 2003 for 4 years. Just to keep my credit score high. A buyer who needs to finance more than 50% of a car purchase clearly is buying beyond their means.
 
Insurance premiums FALL as vehicles become older. This is because collision claim benefits for replacement in the event of the vehicle being totalled decline as the car ages and depreciates. For the duration of a lease or loan comprehensive coverage stays high because the insurance company is covering the value of the vehicle to the lessor/ lienholder, which is fixed.
 
Of course insurance premiums do increase for antiques or museum car based upon any increase in insured value.
 
It's highly unlikely that any G35/ G37 owner will ever face that situation.
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Conquest Cash by 2confused2
May 18, 2008 (6:17 pm)
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Is the G35 qualify for the $1000.00 conquest cash infiniti is offering?
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Re: Question [brodway] by sonofjay
May 18, 2008 (6:42 pm)
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Replying to: brodway (May 18, 2008 5:49 pm)

Brodway. Great. I'll likely pay the fees upfront and pay the rest of the payments when due. Thank you for your reply and help! -S
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Re: Lease to purchase comparison is "Apples to Apples" [brodway] by sonofjay
May 18, 2008 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: brodway (May 18, 2008 5:41 pm)

Brodway. The more I read the more I have heard the same story, apparently the one we share. In particular when it comes to BMW's. In fact I read a article or blog by on the writers here on Edmunds saying that he would never own/lease a Germany car that wasn't under full manufactures warranty. When working properly, the BMW I have now is the best "feeling" and driving car I have ever been in. That includes my test driving in the G35x (albeit that is limited experience). But you can't go 2-3 months without some relatively expensive issue coming up and the hassle of dragging it into the dealer. In our area there was no guarantee on loaners and it was just a hassle all around to get the car repaired repeatedly. A former co-worker's experience as the same and he left for Lexus and couldn't be happier.
 
I am convinced that the 5 year included maintenance BMW offer on their new cars is a result of owner issues like this.
 
Anyway... I hope that my new G35x, when I get it, follows the same experience I've had with other Japanese manufacturers and it is reliably
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Re: G37 warranty [athens] by brodway
May 18, 2008 (7:08 pm)
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Replying to: athens (May 18, 2008 6:14 pm)

A buyer who needs to finance more than 50% of a car purchase clearly is buying beyond their means
 
Thats an absolutely silly thing to say. I bought my wifes car with only 20% down, but could have afforded to buy it for cash. The finance rate was 1.9%. I think i can do much better than that in the financial markets.
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Re: Lease Rates [2confused2] by sonofjay
May 18, 2008 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: 2confused2 (May 18, 2008 6:07 pm)

2confused2,
 
See the following link
 
http://ridewithg.whitecarrot.com/index.php/2008/05/may-2008-lease-rate-for-08-in- finiti-g35g37/
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Re: G37 warranty [athens] by brodway
May 18, 2008 (7:28 pm)
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Replying to: athens (May 18, 2008 6:14 pm)

$40K purchase price financing - $20K (retail value after 6 years)/ 72K miles = $0.27
Infiniti NA is offering 1.9% financing for 36 months/ 3.9% for 60 mos!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Where do you get your prices from? a 6 year old vehicle for 20k? You can ask, but you will never get a buyer. You will be lucky if you get $12k-$14k. If you are using Kelly Blue Book the prices that are reflected there are not accurate market values. Dealers use NADA which is a better indicator of market value and auction value of vehicles. I just ran an Edmunds valuation report on a 2003 G35 with most of the options available at the time without navigation, and the trade in value is under $13,000 with a private party sale of $14,000. That's a 5 year old vehicle.
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Re: Lease Rates [sonofjay] by brodway
May 18, 2008 (7:35 pm)
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Replying to: sonofjay (May 18, 2008 7:09 pm)

Sonofjay...
 
I'm not sure if these are the accurate lease and residual rates. Dwynne had posted rates earlier in the month, and his numbers were different than those posted in the link you provided. I'm inclined to believe that those rates posted by him are accurate because i confirmed the rates on the G35X with a couple dealers.
 
G35 Journey:
24-69%-.00126
36-59%-.00150
39-58%-.00173
   
G35 6MT:
24-68%-.00126
36-58%-.00150
39-57%-.00173
   
G35 AWD:
24-70%-.00131
36-60%-.00150
39-59%-.00172
   
G37 Journey:
24-71%-.00184
36-61%-.00192
39-60%-.00190
   
G37 6MT
24-73%-.00184
36-62%-.00192
39-61%-.00190
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Re: G35XS: Lease in Chicago area ??? [helices] by sonofjay
May 18, 2008 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: helices (May 18, 2008 5:53 pm)

helices,
 
It's hard to figure out know without knowing the invoice price. (if it was old pricing or new pricing).
 
But it looks like your money factors are off.
 
http://ridewithg.whitecarrot.com/index.php/2008/05/may-2008-lease-rate-for-08-in- finiti-g35g37/
 
According to the link above your MF should be like those below and if they are no then the dealer must have marked them up.
 
2008 Infiniti G35 X Sedan
24 Month/12k miles/yr – Residual 71% of MSRP – .00131 Base Rate
36 Month/12k miles/yr – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00150 Base Rate
 
Of course take what i say with a grain of salt as I just go into this forum 2 weeks ago and will be leasing for the first time shortly.
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Re: Lease Rates [brodway] by sonofjay
May 18, 2008 (7:48 pm)
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Replying to: brodway (May 18, 2008 7:35 pm)

Brodway,
 
Maybe I missed something..... but are these rates not he same as the ones on the page I linked to? I've looked at them again and they look the same to me.
 
Unless I'm having a bad day the only difference I see are for the residuals which is expected as Dwynne's numbers are for 15k and the other were for 12k.
 
I can edit the previous post easy enough to point to Dwynne's posted rates though.

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