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Infiniti G35 G37 Lease Questions

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What is this discussion about? Infiniti G35, Infiniti G37, Car Leasing, Coupe, Sedan


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Re: Multiple Security Deposits [qbrozen] by kyfdx HOST
May 15, 2008 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (May 15, 2008 8:36 am)

Sales tax savings....
 
If you live in a state that just taxes the monthly payment each month, then you'd definitely save money, if the payment is lower...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Multiple Security Deposits [kyfdx] by dwynne
May 15, 2008 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 15, 2008 9:00 am)

Here is the post from user zheka212 from Jan of this year.
 
He called IFS and his insurance company and reported:
 
Only small warning to include (I spent several hours on the phone with IFS and my insurance company to get a definitive answer) -- just as in the case with a cap reduction, if the car is totaled, the deposits are not refunded. You mention in the post "in the event of a total loss your insurance satisfies the lease bank" -- which is what I thought when I decided to investigate this option before signing my lease in 05.
  
I know this does not make sense (the bank is satisfied), I know it's counterintuitive, but unless you can get something in writing from IFS, I would stay away from this option or at least consider the extra risk.

 
So unless I had something in writing from IFS to explain how and when the MSDs would be used and not refunded *I* would not want to risk that much money.
 
Dennis
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Re: lease calculation question [sonofjay] by sonofjay
May 15, 2008 (9:36 am)
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Replying to: sonofjay (May 14, 2008 9:51 pm)

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef9da24/2971
 
In answer to my own posted question above regarding the differences in edmunds.com and carsdirect.com, now that I see it I recall reading on here about it, the reason for the difference in price is a price increase.
 
MSRP (base) from $34,350 to $34,750 ($400)
Destination from $715 to $765 ($50)
Splash guards from $150 to $155 ($5)
 
400+50+5 = 455 (which equals the difference in MSRP prices I was given by 2 dealers). Which was $40,180(dealer 1) - $39,725 (dealer2) = $455
 
Bottom-line edmunds.com has old price and carsdirect.com has new. One of the dealers is quoting new price price, the other the old price.
 
Thanks -S
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Re: lease calculation question [sonofjay] by ajb723
May 15, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: sonofjay (May 14, 2008 9:51 pm)

just noted on myG37.com that Infiniti has increase destination charge from $715 to $765 and a $500 increase in invoice. can anyone corfirm this?
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Re: Buy or Re-Lease? [dwynne] by knr5
May 15, 2008 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (May 14, 2008 10:57 am)

Thank you, Dennis, for your quick and thoughtful response!
Another issue I was wrestling with was about how well the G35 held up over a longer time horizon. It is nearly bullet-proof over a three or four-year term. I was not so sure about how it fares over 7 or 8 years. If it held-up really well, it would make sense to buy my car at the end of the lease -- there is no way I can get this combination of power, handling, and comfort for 21k! On the other hand, I will eventually have to downsize and economize as I approach retirement -- so enjoy while I still can!
In any case, like you said, waiting and watching is prudent. Thanks, again.
Raj
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Base Cap Cost by skmiller22
May 15, 2008 (11:53 am)
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Ok, so one last time - a good deal right now is to negotiate the dealer to $500 above invoice price. Is this $500 above invoice including the cost of the car, destination charge, bank fee, dealer acquistion and other costs all rolled into one? Or is this just for the cost of the car plus destination charge?
 
If someone could explain what exactly I should expect to negotiate into the cost of $500 above invoice it would be greatly appreciated. Also if you can tell me what other fees I can expect to pay(ie... license, tax, etc).
 
thanks.
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Re: lease calculation question [ajb723] by dwynne
May 15, 2008 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: ajb723 (May 15, 2008 11:23 am)

You can go to the Infiniti web page a build a car and see the price. How does that compare to the MSRP shown at carsdirect.com? Should be the same thing, including the $765 destination charge.
 
What you have to do is pick out the car you want and note the MSRP and build date. If it is a recent production car the MSRP should match what you see at carsdirect.com and the Infiniti page. If so, then the invoice shown should be correct. If the MSRP of the car you pick is less, then it is an older production car. What I would do is take the price different at MSRP and subtract if from the current invoice. That should be close enough to the actual invoice.
 
Dennis
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Re: Base Cap Cost [skmiller22] by dwynne
May 15, 2008 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: skmiller22 (May 15, 2008 11:53 am)

$500 over invoice for the car, destination, and dealer doc or prep fee. Then add $595 bank fee, tags, title, and taxes.
 
Invoice = published dealer invoice for the car INCLUDING destination charge.
 
Dennis
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Re: Multiple Security Deposits [kyfdx] by qbrozen
May 15, 2008 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 15, 2008 9:00 am)

Ok. This doesn't make sense to me. Why would the payoff subtract your security deposit? Its a security deposit, not a cap reduction.
 
I'm not saying they don't do it. It just doesn't make sense.
 
I'm pretty sure this came up on the bimmer board and it was said the deposits are refunded. Maybe IFS is different.
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Re: Base Cap Cost [dwynne] by skmiller22
May 15, 2008 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (May 15, 2008 11:56 am)

Thanks for the quick response dennis. So essentially when I look up the Invoice price on Edmunds they say its $38,111 and thats including a $715 destination charge. So I should be willing to pay $38611 + bank fee, tags, title, and tax.
 
Any idea how much tags and title are in NJ?
 
Again I really can't thank you guys enough. I have what I should be paying as the base cost, an estimate of the additional fees, money factor, and residual value, so its simple calculation at this point for the monthly cost. You really do make things much easier then haggling the heck out of these guys.

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