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Re: First Time Leaser [skmiller22] by dwynne
May 13, 2008 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: skmiller22 (May 13, 2008 12:03 pm)

It is hard to say. I think I would just contact all of the dealers in a 100-200 mile radius from home and tell them what you want (model, options, colors) and that you are ready to buy now if they give you the right price. Ask that they quote you the car with destination and any dealer doc or prep fees included. Also ask if any dealer installed options are already on the cars they sell. If you are specific about what you want and that you want all these included in the quote you should be able to find a dealer that gets you close to invoice including fees - say within $500. If you find one of these and they have the car you want, then ask them again about any other fees and if destination and dealer fees included. If they say OK, then have them give you the lease numbers for the term you want. Look up the lease buy rate posted earlier this month in this thread and include that in your lease request. State something like "the top tier buy rates is 0.00??? for this model, is that what you charge?". Once you have found a good deal with a dealer that does not mark up the rate, then you are mostly ready to go.
 
I would concentrate on price - car+destination+dealer fees first and not mention leasing at all. If you mention you want to lease they hit you with payments to cover up how much they are charging you for the car.
 
Dennis
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Re: First Time Leaser [dwynne] by skmiller22
May 13, 2008 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (May 13, 2008 12:50 pm)

Thanks Dennis for all your help in this process.
 
One more question(probably stupid too) - How do I go about contacting the internet sales manager for the dealerships? Do i just go through the infiniti website and select get quote?
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Re: First Time Leaser [skmiller22] by dwynne
May 13, 2008 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: skmiller22 (May 13, 2008 1:00 pm)

Use the dealer locator to find the dealer and look up their web page. Most will have some link there to contract the "Internet sales" folks. You can also request quotes from Edmunds and check prices at carsdirect.com (use different ZIP codes).
 
If your employer does business with Nissan / Infiniti you may qualify for a VPP code which will get the price set to about $300 over invoice. You can search for your company name at this link.
 
Dennis
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lease calculation question by drjustin
May 13, 2008 (7:07 pm)
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payment calculation question:
 
i've worked up some "hopeful/hypothetical" numbers in the lease calculator(the residual was given by the dealer) and now i'm "trying" to make sense of how to compare/understand these numbers when i put it into my finance calculator to see if the payments match. let me explain in greater detail.
 
car= 08 journey, sport, premium, splash
 
lease calc=
 
sales price $35,050
taxes at 3,25 of $1,139
term 39/mo
resid $22,381 (based off a $37,935 (59%) msrp)
MF=00.175(hypothetical again)
15,000 miles
acq $595
sec dep $500
 
payment = $481.90
 
here comes the question. is there a way, to use my "financial calulator" to compare the deal??
 
meaning.....if i take MSRP + taxes=$39,074
 
subtract the residual value of $22,381, i come up with $16,693 that i'm financing over 39 mo's in this case.
 
so enter in finance calc:
N=39
interest rate=4.2 (.00175 x 2400)
Present Value= $16,693
 
compute payment= $458.65
 
but the lease calculator has the same setup giving me 481.90?
 
what am i missing guys? besides my brain? long day i guess.
 
thx in advance....
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Re: lease calculation question [drjustin] by sonofjay
May 13, 2008 (9:31 pm)
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Replying to: drjustin (May 13, 2008 7:07 pm)

Hi drjustin,
 
I found the following link useful in putting together my 'calculator'. I created a formula in Microsoft Excel that does the lease calculation. Hopefully it can help you figure how you want to build a calculation you can use as well.
 
http://ridewithg.whitecarrot.com/index.php/the-lease-formula/
 
-S
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Re: May Residuals and MF - G37 [jeremyw] by Car_man HOST
May 14, 2008 (2:13 am)
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Replying to: jeremyw (May 13, 2008 5:37 am)

Hey jeremyw. This car's lease program varies by term and mileage allowance. You never mentioned what either of these variables are, so for now I will assume that you are interested in a 36 month lease with 15,000 miles per year. Let me know if you want something different. Infiniti Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a base 2008 Infiniti G37 Coupe with 15,000 miles per year are .00192 and 63%, respectively. The residual value for a lease with only 12,000 miles per year is 1% higher.
 
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Re: Leasing question and 24 vs 36 month [gipsy] by drjustin
May 14, 2008 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: gipsy (May 13, 2008 7:02 am)

with the current health, or lack thereof of our economy what exactly is a high yield checking account?
 
just curious.....what is the return? any current numbers? i recently signed up for a money market account at my bank with 8K+ and am not even receiving (1.8%) anything close to the inflation rate??
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Re: lease calculation question [sonofjay] by drjustin
May 14, 2008 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: sonofjay (May 13, 2008 9:31 pm)

Sonofjay,
 
i'd love to have that excel spreadsheet. I'm a doctor and not a MS Office guru. Would you be kind enough to email it to me?
 
jsnyder at drjustinsnyder dot com
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Good deal? by montydee
May 14, 2008 (9:11 am)
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I have been shopping around for a couple weeks and have been finally offered the below deal. Doing the math, I think I am about $750 over invoice (with the doc fee).
 
G35 Journey w/ Prem Pkg only
 
24 month, 12k mile lease
Tier 1 credit
MSRP $35,515
Adj Cap Cost of $35,065 includes the following
$595 Acquisition fee
$600 DMV fee (AZ)
$541 1st Payment
$495 Doc Fee
 
$0 due at signing with the 23 remaining payments at $541 (including 8% tax).
 
I would love to get this down another couple hundred but I am not having any luck. We only have 4 Infiniti dealers in Phoenix (2 of the 4 owned by the same company) and 1 more in Tucson about 2 hours away.
 
I can get the VPP discount, but every dealer has a $400-500 doc fee so I am in the same ball park with price.
 
I will try one last time when I go do the final deal, but I am ok with paying the extra $10 or so a month to get the car. My bigger concern is that I want to make sure I am good with the math before pulling the trigger.
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Re: Good deal? [montydee] by drjustin
May 14, 2008 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: montydee (May 14, 2008 9:11 am)

monty,
 
i think you'd find most of the educated lease folk on here, not including myself in that category, would tell you this:
 
a good deal would be one that is $500 above invoice, including dest fee and dealer doc fee's. i'm NOT SURE if that "good deal" includes the acq. fee of $595 or not?
 
i also think that these guys are going to tell you this:
 
we need to know the exact options of your car, as well as the invoice price etc. all that information can be found on edmunds.com i'd STRONGLY recommend brushing up on your lease knowledge/education before making a deal. take time and read these posts. in them you'll find the information you need, while at the same time nobody will be able to afford the time to walk someone through hand in hand.
 
here are a few things you need to figure your deal:
 
invoice
money factor (ask the dealer, per "dennis" if they won't disclose this info, don't deal with them.)
 
bottom line is to educate yourself or pay later. IMO, without knowing your mf or invoice, i'd say you're not getting a good deal. the msrp and cap costs are too close?? i have an invoice on the same car, add sport edition for $34,600ish, and that was from the dealer, not edminds. the edmunds invoice is $34,200 something. something ain't right in your deal.....
 
but then again, i'm nowhere near an expert or claiming to be. just trying to help a fellow person in my same situation. best of luck!

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