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First Time Leaser by skmiller22
May 13, 2008 (11:04 am)
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Hi,
Ive never leased a car before and have been reading through the forums and some sites and Im trying to get some info together before heading to the Infiniti Dealer so I don't get ripped off.
 
I live in NJ and am looking to lease an Infiniti G37 Journey with premium package, sport package, splash guards. I would be doing a 36 month lease with the least amount of miles they will negotiate(10,000 or 12,000) a year.
 
How much above invoice should I try to negotiate for the base cap cost? From reading through pages of posts it looks like most people are getting 500 above invoice. Is this true? What is the highest above invoice you'd recommend going at this time for base cap cost? Im thinking of printing out the Invoice pricing from Edmunds/Yahoo and showing it to the dealer and say how close to this can you get rather then haggle with him.
 
Also what is the current Residual Value and Money Factor/Interest Rate that Infiniti is using this month? I have very good credit if that comes into play in the interest rate.
 
I am guessing that once I have this information along with the NJ sales tax of 7% that I can plug the #'s into a calculator online and come up with my monthly payments.
 
Is there anything I should be aware of before going into the dealership? Anything that they will try to throw into the lease to screw me over or things that they will offer me that I do not need? How does Gap insurance work - does infiniti include this or do i pay extra and if so how much should i be willing to pay? How about general dings and dents, is there a clause in the lease I should look for? Like I said Im new to this and want to ensure that I get the best deal possible without getting screwed.
 
Lastly, would I get a better deal if I held off a week and went during Memorial Day weekend or will it be essentially the same regardless of this week or next?
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Re: First Time Leaser [skmiller22] by dwynne
May 13, 2008 (11:27 am)
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Replying to: skmiller22 (May 13, 2008 11:04 am)

If you have been reading the forum, you should have learned that the dealer's showroom is the LAST place you want to go to work a deal. Contact the "Internet sales manager" or "Internet sales department" at all the dealerships in your area and work the deals via e-mail. Don't bother to go onto the lot until you have a nice deal worked out. It will save you a lot of time and money. Most folks spend WAY too much time trying to hammer prices at a dealership and often will let the dealer grind them down until they accept something just to get a deal and a car. It does not and should not be that hard.
 
Dennis
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Re: First Time Leaser [dwynne] by skmiller22
May 13, 2008 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (May 13, 2008 11:27 am)

Thanks Dennis. What info should I provide the internet sales manager when I first reach out to them? Model, color, options. Should I say anthing about what im looking to pay or anythign along those lines?
 
Im really not desperate to get a new car, its more along the lines of it would be nice to have. So if I can't find a dealer to give me a good deal then I can walk out and not think twice about it. I outright own my current car and could continue driving it if need be. Its an older vehicle(96 taurus) which is why id prefer to get something new. I dont drive to work so its essentially a leisure time use vehicle. So the G37 would be more like a toy for me.
 
Also, a family friend has been using the same salesmen and they have recently leased 2 G35X's from this guy as well as their 2 previous G35X's. Do you think that he would be more inclined to give a good deal to me to keep their future business?
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Re: First Time Leaser [skmiller22] by dwynne
May 13, 2008 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: skmiller22 (May 13, 2008 12:03 pm)

It is hard to say. I think I would just contact all of the dealers in a 100-200 mile radius from home and tell them what you want (model, options, colors) and that you are ready to buy now if they give you the right price. Ask that they quote you the car with destination and any dealer doc or prep fees included. Also ask if any dealer installed options are already on the cars they sell. If you are specific about what you want and that you want all these included in the quote you should be able to find a dealer that gets you close to invoice including fees - say within $500. If you find one of these and they have the car you want, then ask them again about any other fees and if destination and dealer fees included. If they say OK, then have them give you the lease numbers for the term you want. Look up the lease buy rate posted earlier this month in this thread and include that in your lease request. State something like "the top tier buy rates is 0.00??? for this model, is that what you charge?". Once you have found a good deal with a dealer that does not mark up the rate, then you are mostly ready to go.
 
I would concentrate on price - car+destination+dealer fees first and not mention leasing at all. If you mention you want to lease they hit you with payments to cover up how much they are charging you for the car.
 
Dennis
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Re: First Time Leaser [dwynne] by skmiller22
May 13, 2008 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (May 13, 2008 12:50 pm)

Thanks Dennis for all your help in this process.
 
One more question(probably stupid too) - How do I go about contacting the internet sales manager for the dealerships? Do i just go through the infiniti website and select get quote?
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Re: First Time Leaser [skmiller22] by dwynne
May 13, 2008 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: skmiller22 (May 13, 2008 1:00 pm)

Use the dealer locator to find the dealer and look up their web page. Most will have some link there to contract the "Internet sales" folks. You can also request quotes from Edmunds and check prices at carsdirect.com (use different ZIP codes).
 
If your employer does business with Nissan / Infiniti you may qualify for a VPP code which will get the price set to about $300 over invoice. You can search for your company name at this link.
 
Dennis
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lease calculation question by drjustin
May 13, 2008 (7:07 pm)
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payment calculation question:
 
i've worked up some "hopeful/hypothetical" numbers in the lease calculator(the residual was given by the dealer) and now i'm "trying" to make sense of how to compare/understand these numbers when i put it into my finance calculator to see if the payments match. let me explain in greater detail.
 
car= 08 journey, sport, premium, splash
 
lease calc=
 
sales price $35,050
taxes at 3,25 of $1,139
term 39/mo
resid $22,381 (based off a $37,935 (59%) msrp)
MF=00.175(hypothetical again)
15,000 miles
acq $595
sec dep $500
 
payment = $481.90
 
here comes the question. is there a way, to use my "financial calulator" to compare the deal??
 
meaning.....if i take MSRP + taxes=$39,074
 
subtract the residual value of $22,381, i come up with $16,693 that i'm financing over 39 mo's in this case.
 
so enter in finance calc:
N=39
interest rate=4.2 (.00175 x 2400)
Present Value= $16,693
 
compute payment= $458.65
 
but the lease calculator has the same setup giving me 481.90?
 
what am i missing guys? besides my brain? long day i guess.
 
thx in advance....
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Re: lease calculation question [drjustin] by sonofjay
May 13, 2008 (9:31 pm)
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Replying to: drjustin (May 13, 2008 7:07 pm)

Hi drjustin,
 
I found the following link useful in putting together my 'calculator'. I created a formula in Microsoft Excel that does the lease calculation. Hopefully it can help you figure how you want to build a calculation you can use as well.
 
http://ridewithg.whitecarrot.com/index.php/the-lease-formula/
 
-S
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Re: May Residuals and MF - G37 [jeremyw] by Car_man HOST
May 14, 2008 (2:13 am)
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Replying to: jeremyw (May 13, 2008 5:37 am)

Hey jeremyw. This car's lease program varies by term and mileage allowance. You never mentioned what either of these variables are, so for now I will assume that you are interested in a 36 month lease with 15,000 miles per year. Let me know if you want something different. Infiniti Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a base 2008 Infiniti G37 Coupe with 15,000 miles per year are .00192 and 63%, respectively. The residual value for a lease with only 12,000 miles per year is 1% higher.
 
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Re: Leasing question and 24 vs 36 month [gipsy] by drjustin
May 14, 2008 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: gipsy (May 13, 2008 7:02 am)

with the current health, or lack thereof of our economy what exactly is a high yield checking account?
 
just curious.....what is the return? any current numbers? i recently signed up for a money market account at my bank with 8K+ and am not even receiving (1.8%) anything close to the inflation rate??

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