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My G-37 lease Deal Car_man or anyone - How does this deal look? by ct1211
Apr 28, 2008 (11:48 am)
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Hi everyone here is the deal I just worked out on a G-37 MT-6 Black on Black, with premium, Nav, Tech, 4 wheel steering, splash cargo net and mats the car is loaded I think.
 
MSRP 45045
Invoice 40934
Price of car 40934
Money factor .00194
Residual 72%
Zero down (just start ups equal to 1600.00)
24 months 15K miles
6% Michigan tax
Monthly payment = $526.36
 
Did I miss anything? Should I buy it at this deal or do you think May might bring better terms?
 
Thanks so much for any input guys!!
 
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Re: lease help... [brian62] by dwynne
Apr 29, 2008 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: brian62 (Apr 26, 2008 7:46 am)

To make your long story short :
 
You deal the price down on the car just like you are buying it. You want to be within $500 of invoice for the car, destination, and dealer doc or prep fee - less any customer cash (none right now).
 
You make sure you get the lease buy rates - as published here and other places each month.
 
You roll in the taxes, bank fee, tags, title, etc into the lease if you want to - or plan on paying them at signing.
 
With whatever you want to finance added to your price, you plug the numbers into a lease calc, add taxes as needed, and you have your payment.
 
Pretty simple this way. None of that "dealer a says $xxx with $qqqq down" and "dealer b says $yyy with $zzzz down" stuff. Much easier to just deal the price down and lease at the buy rate. If everyone would learn how their state and local taxes work and how much the local and state fees are, you can work your whole deal to the penny and instantly know if the dealer did it right or added something to it (those sneaky dealers). The goal is not to compare the offers from a couple of dealers, the goal is to lease your new G for the least possible amount.
 
Dennis
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Re: lease help... [dwynne] by ccc4
Apr 29, 2008 (1:44 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (Apr 29, 2008 12:29 pm)

Hi Dennis,
 
I have been reading your posts for a while, very helpful. One thing I'm not very clear is when you said invoice, did you already include the destination charge? Usually the two are listed separately, for example invoice is $36000 and there is $715 for destination. Every dealer I talked did it this way: quote price first, then add destination on top of it. Your invoice seems to combine them together. If so, it means we should be able to get the car a couple hundred dollars below dealer’s invoice, after adding the destination charge, it will be in the range you specified ($500 over invoice). Is this true? Also I noticed most of your posts are for leasing. Do you think there will be any price difference between leasing and purchasing?
 
Thanks a lot
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Re: lease help... [ccc4] by dwynne
Apr 29, 2008 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: ccc4 (Apr 29, 2008 1:44 pm)

It has to be paid and the "wholesale" and "retail" cost of destination is the same - no markup. So when I say "invoice" (as do many other folks and sources) this is for the car and destination.
 
Get your quotes to include the car, destination, and any dealer doc or prep fee. Then when you compare quotes from various dealers you will be comparing apples to apples. Since many Infiniti dealers have high doc fees making sure that is included is a must.
 
You should be around invoice (including dest) + $500 for the car, destination, and dealer fee less any customer cash (currently none).
 
Leasing or buying should make no difference to the dealer at this time. AFAIK the cheap finance offer nor the current lease rates change the dealer's cost at all. Normally that only comes into play when there is dealer incentive money on the line, so they can (let us say) knock the price down $1k more OR give you a really cheap lease or loan - but not both.
 
Dennis
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Is this as good as I think by mkadams9
Apr 29, 2008 (6:45 pm)
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I was offered a G35x, with premium and Nav (sticker is $39,725) for $526/month. The invoice is ~$36300.
 
Bottom line, 15k/month for either 36 or 39 months (not sure which off the top of my head) with NO money out of pocket for $526 month. I think this is a really good deal but wanted to make sure
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leasewise by drjustin
Apr 29, 2008 (8:00 pm)
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just curious to know any experience anyone has had, positive or negative with "leasewise." looking for a good deal on a g35 sport in tulsa and considering using leasewise.
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Re: leasewise [drjustin] by ct1211
Apr 30, 2008 (3:35 am)
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Replying to: drjustin (Apr 29, 2008 8:00 pm)

Hi, a second party will never get you a better lease than what you can get yourself through IFS. You need to find the buy rates for your car in these forums for money factor and locate the residual for the term and miles you want to lease for. finally, build your car here at edmunds giving you your MSRP and Invoice price. You are now armed with the info you need to work your own lease with solid numbers you can simply walk into a dealership with. Then use a lease calculator to structure your deal. It just takes a little work. Any third part is going to be marking up what ever you might be saving as they need to make a living too!
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Re: leasewise [ct1211] by dwynne
Apr 30, 2008 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: ct1211 (Apr 30, 2008 3:35 am)

That may not always be true. You should qualify that with "on an incentive lease". When they launch a new model and it is selling well then IFS will put a high MF on the lease and you very well may be able to beat that going 3rd party. The IFS residual will likely be higher, but the net payment may work out to be less. Once the new has worn off the new model and / or sales have slowed down, then you are correct - you are not likely to find a 3rd party lease deal to top an IFS offer. The higher residuals coupled with even a decent MF will net out a lower payment and if they get serious about moving some model they will have silly low MFs and still keep the residuals high.
 
You can use a site like leasecompare.com to see what kind of numbers are offered by a 3rd party lease bank - to compare to the IFS offering.
 
Dennis
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Re: Is this as good as I think [mkadams9] by mkadams9
Apr 30, 2008 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: mkadams9 (Apr 29, 2008 6:45 pm)

I am told this deal is $240 under invoice. It is for 36 months
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Re: Is this as good as I think [mkadams9] by ct1211
Apr 30, 2008 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: mkadams9 (Apr 30, 2008 10:41 am)

Hi, I just bought a G37 coupe and I have the numbers at hand for leasing through Infiniti. If the MSRP and Invoice costs you provided are accurate and I apply the IFS lease rates for your G35X for 36 months at 15K miles per year your zero down monthly payment would be approx. $488.50 before sales tax - whatever that might be in your state. This would put you at 500.00 over invoice. If he was selling you the car at $200 under invoice you would be at $457 before tax on the monthly. Keep in mind that by zero down they will still collect first month Acq. fee etc etc to the tune of about 1700.00. I hope this helps. He could be calculating from 200 below invoice and marking up the money factor or adding other hidden charges. This is why it is never a good idea to negotiate a lease by monthly payment.

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