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Re: Infiniti April lease incentives [dwynne] by sstoyko
Apr 14, 2008 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (Apr 14, 2008 6:07 am)

Hi, I've read your posts and I'm just a little unsure about my deal. The dealer has to get the car from another dealer that is 150 miles away.
 
G37 Journey - $35,250
P01 Premium Package - $3,200
T92 Trunk Cargo Net - $60
Destination Charge - $715
Total with Options $39,225 (Invoice $35,928)
 
Negotiated Car Cost - $36,428 (Invoice + $500)
Bank Fee - $ 595
Documentation Fee - $ 499 (Everyone here in GA charges this, and I can't get them to budge)
Gross Cap Cost - $37,522
 
Residual - $27,850 (71% 0f $39,225)
Money Factor - 0.00104 (0.00194 - (9 * 0.0001))
 
Upfronts
Cap Cost Reduction - $ 1,182 (Bank Fee + Doc Fee + $88)
Sales Tax on Reduc - $ 83
Security Deposit - $ 4,050 (MSD - 9 $450)
Title & Reg - $ 43
Total Upfronts - $ 5,806
 
24 Months
15,000 Miles per Year
$450 per Month ($421 + 7% Sales Tax)
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Out of Pocket Fees by superman2424
Apr 14, 2008 (11:36 pm)
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What fees should I expect to have to come up with??? For example, when seeing the invoice price listed on Edmunds, does that exclude doc/prep fees, license fees and taxes? For example, I'm looking at a G35X with premium, NAV, cargo net, and splash guards.. Invoice is $36,297.. Should I anticipate paying taxes and other fees out of pcket when signing a lease? Can they be rolled into the lease?? If so, what is financially the smartest way to pay for them?
 
Secondly, I have 2 payments left on my '04 G and I'm 20,000 miles under my lease. Dealer is telling me my only option is to roll the final two payments into the new lease since I was in a minor fender bender, carfax reports an accident and the appraised value is less than buyout price. Honesty or looking to inflate my cap cost???
 
Thanks in advance
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Re: Out of Pocket Fees [superman2424] by brian62
Apr 15, 2008 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: superman2424 (Apr 14, 2008 11:36 pm)

If you car has been in an accident, then it is likely that the wholesale value of the car is below your residual value of your original lease.
 
This is just one of the reasons why I lease, if you get in an accident, you don't take the loss in value.
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Re: April month payment comparison chart [dwynne] by brian62
Apr 15, 2008 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Apr 08, 2008 3:37 pm)

Any thoughts on where the prices will be in the next 60 days?
 
I know this is a tough question, but you seem to have more info then most and since you are following the price of the car I would think your guess is better then mine.
 
I ask because I have two more lease payments on my current car, if I roll these into a new G35, then the price will go up about $30 a month. My concern is that if I wait a month or two, then the residual will go down or the money factor up costing me at least that much a month. I don't mind waiting, but if it is a wash I would love to get into the new car now.
 
I know that I will get responses with, "nobody knows what will happen next month". But anyone have a guess?
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Re: Infiniti April lease incentives [sstoyko] by dwynne
Apr 15, 2008 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: sstoyko (Apr 14, 2008 6:12 pm)

Are they charging you anything for the "locate" (drive or haul the car you want to your dealer) ? If not then this is just a "OK" deal, if they are charging you then it sounds like a bad deal.
 
I got my G37 from Harper in Knoxville and they have a $0 doc fee. So if you could get them to do the car for the same or similar price you could save $500 by just driving a little bit. Even better if you knew someone who worked for Nissan or if your company did work for them, then you could get a VPP claim for and get the car from Harper for about $300 over invoice and no fee.
 
Dennis
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Re: Out of Pocket Fees [superman2424] by dwynne
Apr 15, 2008 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: superman2424 (Apr 14, 2008 11:36 pm)

With 20k miles under your G may be worth a good bit more than the residual - accident or not. If you have documentation of the fender bender - photos, body shop quote and receipt, etc then you can show the damage is very minor and would not be a concern to another buyer.
 
I would compare your current buy out price to the current trade value of the car, you may find it is worth a bit more than the buy out. Then get a dealer to BUY your car from you and roll the profit (if any) into the new deal and not the negative equity you dealer wants you to do. With this new knowledge you may be able to talk your dealer into just buying your G for buy out price .
 
If you can't work a deal to have them BUY the car, then I would just wait until you are ready to turn the old car in to work the new deal - I think.
 
For example, my wife was over miles on her last lease but we got a dealer to buy the car for the buyout price at that time. So no turn in hassles and no mileage penalty applied. If you know a dealer that can handle the transaction for you, you can also sell your G to a private party and likely make a nice profit - even after paying the dealer for their trouble.
 
Dennis
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Re: Out of Pocket Fees [brian62] by dwynne
Apr 15, 2008 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: brian62 (Apr 15, 2008 8:24 am)

You do have to have the car properly repaired. If the lease inspector does not like the repair then you can be stuck with fees for "doing it right" after you turn in the car. A pre turn in inspection is key, since if they complain about the repair you take it back to where it was fixed and/or your insurance and get it done properly.
 
Dennis
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Re: April month payment comparison chart [brian62] by dwynne
Apr 15, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: brian62 (Apr 15, 2008 9:03 am)

If you look at the chart here the best time to lease was last month. If you look at payments from the last year they were pretty steady from June through December for most models. Based on that, I would say they may be about the same and don't hurry. Of course, you could have saved money on most Gs has you leased LAST month......
 
All that said, the economy is slowing down so most car sales are likely to slow as well. Infiniti will do what they need to do to try to keep sales up if they slow. That may mean better deals ahead - I would think.
 
As I mentioned, you can always see if your current car is worth more wholesale than costs to buy it out right now. If you get any dealer to buy it from you for the current buyout, you walk away and go do your new deal.
 
Dennis
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April Lease Incentives by prometheo
Apr 15, 2008 (3:03 pm)
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After going back and forth with a couple of dealers I received the following quote today. I'm looking to see if this is a decent deal with the current 12k/24mo lease incentive for April:
 
$3,000 out the door
$247/mo (including all taxes and fees)
24mo/12k mi
No maintenance costs for 30k miles.
 
Any insight would be much appreciated.
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Re: April Lease Incentives [prometheo] by dwynne
Apr 15, 2008 (3:20 pm)
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Replying to: prometheo (Apr 15, 2008 3:03 pm)

While the payment sounds cheap, I would not put that much money into it up front.
 
We also need to know:
 
The model (G35 or G35)
 
The trim level and all options.
 
MSRP and invoice
 
What you are paying for the car?
 
Is this an IFS closed end lease or through a 3rd party bank?
 
Residual and money factor for the lease?
 
There is/was a dealer in NY that was promoting really cheap G leases but it turned out they were 3rd party open end leases, which is not something anyone would want to sign.
 
Dennis

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