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Re: Lease numbers on G35 Sport through VPP [devius] by jpp5862
Jul 21, 2007 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: devius (Jul 21, 2007 1:18 pm)

I don't know about the factors, but the way you have calcuated the cap cost isn't right, the dealer did it correctly, you should add $4,000 to the cap cost. If you want to calculate it like you did above, you should add the $12,000 as that is the payoff on your current car. So it would be:
 
$36,800 (cap cost) - $8,000 (value of trade) = $28,800 + $12,000 (payoff) = $40,800
 
Think of it this way, if you weren't upside down, you would take the base price, subtract the value of the trade, and then add back the payoff amount of the loan to get your net.
 
Hope that makes sense, I don't know if I explained it that well or not, but the dealer did calculate it correctly.
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Re: Lease numbers on G35 Sport through VPP [devius] by mikeoc1
Jul 21, 2007 (3:22 pm)
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Replying to: devius (Jul 21, 2007 1:18 pm)

Nice try.
 
If you owe $12,000, the $4000 of negative equity is going to be added to the cap cost. You effectively believe that owing $4,000 more than your car is worth actually should lower your car payment. If it was only that easy.
 
$36,800 (cap cost) - $8000 (value of trade) = $28,800 + $12,000 (amount you owe) = $40,800
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Re: Lease numbers on G35 Sport through VPP [jpp5862] by devius
Jul 21, 2007 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: jpp5862 (Jul 21, 2007 3:19 pm)

Thanks guys. I understand now. Hopefully someone can chime in about the numbers of the lease.
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Re: 2007 G35X lease deal!!! [ripmaster] by rubicon4
Jul 21, 2007 (7:26 pm)
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Replying to: ripmaster (Jul 18, 2007 9:23 am)

Do you know the residual and MF values used in this deal?
 
I have been finding different dealers are quoting different residuals and MF on the G35X. These are the numbers I have seen online:
 
Infiniti Financial Services Lease Programs – Effective 7/5/07
2007 Infiniti G35 X Sedan
24 Month – Residual 67% of MSRP – .00156 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00193 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 46% of MSRP – .00246 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 36% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
Residuals posted are for 15K miles/year. Add 2% to Residual for 12k mi/yr and 3% for 10k mi/yr on all terms
 
Some dealers are quoting only 58% residual on a 36 month / 12k mile lease. My question is if I were to put together a deal and had the adj. cap cost from them would the final papers show the 58% residual (if incorrect) or would they have to go with what IFS mandates (59%). I realize they can play with these numbers and if you don't know the specifics you'll never be the wiser.
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Re: 2007 G35X lease deal!!! [ripmaster] by rubicon4
Jul 21, 2007 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: ripmaster (Jul 18, 2007 9:23 am)

Does anyone know the residual and MF numbers for a 39 month / 12 mile lease on a G35X?
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Re: 2007 G35X lease deal!!! [rubicon4] by aepheme
Jul 22, 2007 (5:21 pm)
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Replying to: rubicon4 (Jul 21, 2007 7:26 pm)

You know, I've been quoted a +1% residual for the Infiniti FX35 by my dealer. I think that the online numbers may be incorrect in the adjustment (from 15k to 12k), but I'd like confirmation, too...
 
Let us know if you find out!
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Re: 2007 G35X lease deal!!! [rubicon4] by mikeoc1
Jul 22, 2007 (7:28 pm)
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Replying to: rubicon4 (Jul 21, 2007 7:26 pm)

IFS does not mandate a 59% residual. That is the buy rate. If the dealer wants to try to increase their profit, they can lower it themselves.
 
These forums allow for accurate information to be shared so that when the dealer provides a quote, you can ask to see the actual numbers and see if they are trying to make extra money.
 
I call them out when they do this and I walk away from the dealership. Another big one to look out for is the bank fee. All leases have them. Infiniti charges $595. I've seen dealers say that it's $795. Call them out.
 
By the way, I decided to buy my G35X. It is a fantastic car. Sport, luxury, great options. I absolutely love it and you will to. Compare it to a 335xi. It's about $12,000 less expensive. Awesome car.
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Re: Need good Dealer details.... [searchingfor] by santafe4
Jul 23, 2007 (7:16 am)
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Replying to: searchingfor (Jul 20, 2007 10:49 am)

It is 10 am monday morning. i will be signing a lease on a 2007 g35 coupe. Dont know if i am getting a great deal. First time leaser.this is what i am getting
 
36 months
Premium Package
no navi
no 19" wheels
 
$3,000 down
$455 a month
39 months
 
is this a good deal....I need an answer quick ...if is not what can i say when i go in there to day at 1pm..
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Re: 2007 G35X lease deal!!! [mikeoc1] by dwynne
Jul 23, 2007 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: mikeoc1 (Jul 22, 2007 7:28 pm)

IFS does not mandate a 59% residual. That is the buy rate. If the dealer wants to try to increase their profit, they can lower it themselves.
 
That is not correct.
 
Dealers can't change the residual percentage, it is set in stone by the lease bank (IFS in this case) and can't be change.
 
The dealers can, and will, try to mark up the lease money factory and/or the lease acquisition fee. If you run into a dealer that does, call them on it as you say and if they don't offer you the "buy rate" find another dealer.
 
Dennis
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Re: 2007 G35X lease deal!!! [rubicon4] by dwynne
Jul 23, 2007 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: rubicon4 (Jul 21, 2007 7:26 pm)

Residuals posted are for 15K miles/year. Add 2% to Residual for 12k mi/yr and 3% for 10k mi/yr on all terms
  
Some dealers are quoting only 58% residual on a 36 month / 12k mile lease.

 
Tarry has the residual adjustment wrong, AFAIK IFS now raises it 1% percent to go from 15k to 12k and 1% to go from 12k to 10k miles per year (2% from 15k to 10k).
 
Dealers can't change the residual percentage, so whatever the dealers gives you should be the right number - unless they screw it up . It that case IFS should catch it and make the dealer re-do the lease. I don't think the percentage will appear on your lease contract, just the residual dollar amount - so you can check this for xx% of MSRP.
 
You do have to watch them on the money factor, however.
 
Dennis

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