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Recent lease by fx1to1
Jul 15, 2007 (1:47 pm)
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Hello all, after lurking on the board for several weeks and soaking up the information here, I leased an 07 FX35 RWD Liquid Platinum / Graphite with Touring, Sport, Technology, Handsfree, Splash guards, Cargo area protector, & Sunroof Wind deflector. I did the 21 month deal w/ 12k mi per year on 6/29. Here's the gory details:
MSRP: $46,900 (note, destination was $700, not the current $760. Been on the lot 111 days).
Cap Cost: 43,150
Adj. Cap Cost: $41,039.52 (had trade equity applied; I know, not usually a good idea, but they were not giving cash back!)
Acq. Fee $595
Doc fee: $369
Title: $656.50
Tire tax: $5
MF: .00039 (.936%!)
Payment: $419.74 + tax $33.37 / mo = 453.11
Total down out the door: $3,797
 
I think I did OK, I couldn't seem to get them below invoice as I have seen others were fortunate enough to do. I did get a good price on my trade (~$500 above good kbb value). Any feedback would be welcome so next time I can do better. I couldn't have done this well without the information posted by the good folks on this forum. Thanks to all for taking the time to post. I hope the above info helps out others as well.
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Re: Recent lease [fx1to1] by fx1to1
Jul 15, 2007 (7:11 pm)
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Replying to: fx1to1 (Jul 15, 2007 1:47 pm)

Oops! Forgot to add the residual was $32,830, or 71%.
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Re: Recent lease [fx1to1] by aepheme
Jul 16, 2007 (5:01 am)
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Replying to: fx1to1 (Jul 15, 2007 7:11 pm)

Thanks for the info, fx1to1! I may do a similar deal this afternoon. By the way, if you're curious...
 
If you hadn't put the trade equity down, your monthly payment would've been around $560 / month.
 
What surprised me on your deal was the title cost! That seems really high! That's all determined by the state, though, right? Which state are you in? Were there any details to that cost?
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Potential Lease Deal by bigblue07
Jul 17, 2007 (11:02 am)
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Just got a quote from a local dealer on the following and need to see what some objective folks have to say:
 
2007 FX35
Tech Package
Hands Free
Sport Package
DVD Mobile Entertainment Pkg
Roof Rail Cross Guards
Splash Guards
 
24 Month
12000 miles per year
Monthly payment $528.52
 
Dealer says MSRP is $47,960
total cap cost $ 44,328.51
dealer invoice $43,898
Money Factor .00026
Residual 67%
 
$2800 down
Includes:
1st Month $528.52
Tax $904.00
Luxury and Fuel-Inefficient Surcharge (a NJ tax) $177.00
Registration $334.00
Documentation & Title $249.00
Tire $7.50
Bank Fee $595.00
 
I like the car - can I fight for a better deal? Seems like a lot up front.
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Re: Potential Lease Deal [bigblue07] by aepheme
Jul 17, 2007 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: bigblue07 (Jul 17, 2007 11:02 am)

Edmunds gives an invoice of $47,250 for the options you described... RWD, right?
 
Is the dealer tacking an additional ~$750 of various BS protection packages and wheel locks?
 
Otherwise, your residual / money factor / and invoice mark-up look to be about normal. You might be able to beat him down to Invoice, but it's probably not worth the time.
 
What's killing you is the incredible number of taxes! I'm not sure what Jersey law is, but that's a whole lot of taxes and fees. Check with you local DMV and see if they're all required or if the dealership is fleecing you somewhere. In MI, Title is only $15 and there's a 6% sales tax on the monthly payment (~$30 for $500). The $595 bank fee is standard, too (set by IFS). Can't comment on the rest...
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Re: Potential Lease Deal [bigblue07] by qbrozen
Jul 17, 2007 (5:08 pm)
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Replying to: bigblue07 (Jul 17, 2007 11:02 am)

WEll, how many years registration is that? Its only a 2 year lease. Gotta watch that one. Dealers now give 4-year registrations in NJ.
 
The $249 doc fee is excessive. I've never paid more than $150, and even that is alot.
 
What's with the luxury and gas-guzzler tax? This is an FX35, not a Benz G class. What pricerange does this start at? Our $36k Pacifica didn't get hit with it, and that gets worse mileage.
 
And, finally, why are you paying all the tax up front? In NJ, you get taxed on each payment, so there is no benefit in paying that up front.
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Re: Potential Lease Deal [qbrozen] by bigblue07
Jul 17, 2007 (6:17 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jul 17, 2007 5:08 pm)

All fair and astute points - thanks for your thoughtfulness. I will check into the registration term and see if I can negotiate down the $249 doc fee.
 
The "gas guzzler" tax, better known as "Luxury & Fuel Inefficient Vehicle Surcharge" is a legite tax and appears it will apply to me. "Effective July 15, 2006, new car dealerships are responsible for collecting a 0.4% surcharge on the new sale or lease of vehicles priced $45,000 or greater or on vehicles having an EPA rating of less than 19 miles per gallon." This is from the following web page:
 
http://www.nj.gov/njbgs/luxvehs.htm and http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/Vehicles/luxtaxfaq.pdf
 
The FX35's average MPG is 16 + 21 / 2 = 18.5 which is less than 19MPG. That sucks. As far as the tax is concerned, I'll see if I can get it spread into the individual lease payments. Thanks!!!
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Re: Potential Lease Deal [bigblue07] by qbrozen
Jul 18, 2007 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: bigblue07 (Jul 17, 2007 6:17 pm)

no problem.
 
And thanks for the tip about that tax. I'll have to keep that in mind if we move up in class when my wife's Pacifica lease is up (I personally want an FX45, which is why I visit this forum ).
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2 quotes from dealer in los angeles by gameboy213
Jul 19, 2007 (2:24 pm)
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My 06 1 yr lease is up in september and I am looking to renew with an 07 as the 08 is the same just more money..... Here are my quotes. I think they are both pretty good really.
 
07 FX35
2wd
handsfree
splash
sport
tech
touring
 
MSRP: 46,810
Residual: 66.00%
Adjus Cap: 42,096
Money Factor: .00010
 
Drive off: 2,500
monthly: 474.01 +tax= $513.12
 
07 FX 35
AWD
handsfree
cross rails
splash
tech
tour
 
MSRP: 46,560
Res: 67%
Adjust Cap: 41,987.54
Money factor: .00026
 
Drive off: 2,800 (roll my last payment in)
Monthly: 468.70 +tax= $507.37
 
They are both liqplat/graphite
 
Do these sound good? I think I can do better really. thanks
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Re: Recent lease [aepheme] by fx1to1
Jul 21, 2007 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: aepheme (Jul 16, 2007 5:01 am)

I'm in AZ and license cost (VLT) is considered a personal property tax based upon 60% of vehicle base MSRP. If anyone is interested, the formula for the license tax in AZ is:
((Base MSRP/100)*0.6)*2.8
Base MSRP on the 2WD FX is $37,800 = $635.04
Here's the other adders:
Registration $8.25
Air Quality Fee $1.50
Title fee $4.00
PRC (recording costs?) $12.00
Just received my tags and the actual total is a little higher than on the docs signed.
 
I do agree that the cost is too high. We're way overtaxed in our state on all things (sales, property, gas, income etc.) it seems. Too bad the apathetic voters don't tell the government they need to operate like a business and not a charitable organization! Never gets cold here so the politicians never put their hands in their own pockets (Writer puts soapbox away...)

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