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Infiniti FX35 / FX50 Lease Questions

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Sept FX-35 Lease Rates by rubinstein7
Sep 02, 2009 (6:12 pm)
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Car Man- What are the Sept. money factors and residuals for the 2009 FX-35 AWD
for 36 and 39 month leases with 15,000 miles per year mileage allowance. I plan to lease one soon.
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Re: FX lease deal [cassy1028] by HardC0d3r
Sep 03, 2009 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: cassy1028 (Aug 07, 2009 11:33 am)

This is a response to the EX deal
"
EX35 Premium and Nav...MSRP 42265
Cap 34959
resid 27893
39 mos
12k
4000 down
$443/month
"
 
I am a newbie, and trying to understand this stuff from a cost basis.
The EX figures are all off in my perception.
 
If the figures are right, you are paying $17000 for financing $7000 over 39 months. If I were presented these figures by the dealer, I would possibly pay the whole difference (cap-residual) up front with my credit card since i have %7.5 APR lol
  
The way that i look into the EX deal is this:
 
IMHO, their capitalization value above is not really true at least for residual value calculations.
 
$2863 is the price below MSRP that you are getting, so your Capitalization should read = $39402
 
39*$443 = $17277 + $4000 = $21277 is what goes out of your pocket in 39 months...
 
If you are paying $21277, your residual value should be somewhere north of (excluding the financing costs for 16K over 39 months) = $18125 (+ the financing cost that you will incur)...
 
The residual value figure that they have there for the EX is pretty off...
 
Either the residual value is %46 ($18125) and you are getting %0 percent, or the residual is %50 ($19701) and you are paying $1576 for financing $16K over 39 months.Or somewhere in between.
 
BTW, at the end, both does not seem so bad to me. So the numbers may be off, but the deal you are getting does not seem too bad . since %50 seems to be the residual that other individuals have posted, I would probably go with this. Any additional discounts that you can get on the price will lower your financing costs.
 
Again, if they show this figures to me, I'd say, OK, I am paying up front all the cap-residual and save myself a good $10K, lol.
 
But what do i know?
 
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Re: FX lease deal [HardC0d3r] by kyfdx HOST
Sep 03, 2009 (3:07 pm)
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Replying to: HardC0d3r (Sep 03, 2009 8:35 am)

Cap 34959
resid 27893

 
You aren't financing $7000... you are financing the average of $34959 and $27893... Or... about $30,400...
 
Monthly depreciation + monthly finance charges = pre-tax lease payment
 
Even if you pay the entire depreciaton up front, you would still have monthly finance charges on the residual amount ($27893).
 
A lease is a lot like a mortgage loan... with an option to turn it in for the balance owed at the end of the lease..
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Re: Sept FX-35 Lease Rates [rubinstein7] by Car_man HOST
Sep 04, 2009 (3:05 am)
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Replying to: rubinstein7 (Sep 02, 2009 6:12 pm)

Hi rubinstein7. Here's the information that you're looking for. Infiniti Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 FX35 AWD with 15,000 miles per year are .00054 and 49%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 39 month lease are .00056 and 48%.
 
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Re: Sept FX-35 Lease Rates [Car_man] by rubinstein7
Sep 07, 2009 (3:22 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Sep 04, 2009 3:05 am)

Thanks Car man. What would be the money factor and residual for an FX-35 AWD with a 42 month lease at 15,000 miles per year?
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Re: Sept FX-35 Lease Rates [rubinstein7] by Car_man HOST
Sep 08, 2009 (1:39 am)
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Replying to: rubinstein7 (Sep 07, 2009 3:22 am)

No problem rubinstein7. Infiniti Financial Services' September buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 2009 FX35 AWD with 15,000 miles per year are .00061 and 46%.
 
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Re: Sept FX-35 Lease Rates [Car_man] by rubinstein7
Sep 08, 2009 (4:49 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Sep 08, 2009 1:39 am)

Car Man-Thanks for the numbers. I discussed with the salesman at the dealership putting down multiple security deposits. Each security deposit lowers the money factor by .0001. Thus putting down 5 security deposits on a 39 month lease lowers the money factor to .00006. This lowers the lease payments by $35/month. That is a good deal. However what happens if your car is a total loss for any reason (most commonly theft or in an accident). Would you get your security deposits back? The car would have the usual comprehensive and collision insurance (provided by me) with $500 deductibles and gap insurance through Infiniti Financial Services. Would you lose the security deposits as you would if you had made a cap cost reduction? Thanks
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Sept FX35 lease rates by jhyoo
Sep 16, 2009 (10:43 am)
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Hey Carman,
What are the current lease rates for 2009 FX35 AWD for 24 months and 15000 miles and 24 months and 18000 miles?
 
Thanks,
James
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Re: Sept FX35 lease rates by tweepee
Sep 19, 2009 (7:50 pm)
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Replying to: jhyoo (Sep 16, 2009 10:43 am)

Hi Carman,
 
I'm sorry if I'm asking the same questions as others, but I am really new to leasing a car and am unsure about whether or not i'm getting a good deal. Here's what the dealership offered me today for a 2009 infiniti fx35 awd with premium and navi package:
 
42 month term
$618/month payment
12k miles
$3500 downpayment including tt&l
 
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
 
Thank you!
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Re: Sept FX35 lease rates [jhyoo] by Car_man HOST
Sep 30, 2009 (3:07 am)
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Replying to: jhyoo (Sep 16, 2009 10:43 am)

Hi James. Infiniti Financial Services' September buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 FX35 AWD with 15,000 miles per year are .00054 and 49%, respectively. You definitely do not want to lease any Infiniti for 24 months. It is no longer providing support on two year leases. As a result, its money factor for a two year lease would skyrocket to .00280.
 
15,000 miles per year is the highest mileage allowance that IFS publishes residual values for. If you need to drive more than that, you will have to purchase additional miles on a per-mile basis. It is less expensive to do so at lease signing than it is to wait until lease-end and have to pay an excess mileage penalty.
 
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