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Infiniti FX35 / FX50 Lease Questions

1361 messages,  Last post on Nov 29, 2009 at 8:13 PM

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Re: You CAN wrap the taxes in... [sgillmore] by jxlxr
Apr 04, 2009 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: sgillmore (Apr 04, 2009 8:28 am)

It shouldn't be that hard. Just ask the dealer to tell you what the selling price is. Once you have that tell them that you want to add the tax back in, adding it to the sales price. They will be paid that extra amount by the bank and hence then submit to VA.
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Re: You CAN wrap the taxes in... [sgillmore] by kyfdx HOST
Apr 04, 2009 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: sgillmore (Apr 04, 2009 8:28 am)

An uncooperative dealer?
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fx50?? need info? by calease
Apr 08, 2009 (6:00 pm)
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What's the deal with lease rates on the FX50 in southern california? There are a few dealers who have them in stock, but they are pretty hard nosed about dealing. What are the money factors and residuals? I understand that I can get a pretty good deal on an FX35, but I want an FX50. Any help would be appreciated!!
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Re: [Car_man] by koolbrez
Apr 08, 2009 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Apr 02, 2009 2:08 am)

Car Man, thanks very much for your response. I have checked out the articles, etc. you suggested and many more.
 
As for the MSRP $49,000+...I was recently informed by the salesman that athough I listed the Touring package in my e-mail's...he thought the Touring package was part of the Premium package. Hence, his incorrect and very low selling price!
 
I also had a salesman at another dealer in NJ recently change the deal. The MSRP of $50,160 was correct with premium, touring, cargo area protector & organizer & splash guards, 12K/39 month lease. He was selling me the vehicle at $45,600 invoice price... finally agreed to take the 2K loyalty cash off the SP... after many e-mail's back and forth. Thanks jxlxr for all of your helpful info!! After getting ready to close the deal and discussing everything with this salesman...he then realized that he did not have the first or second color choice we discussed. He did have with the Tech and Navigation package. However, he informed me that as this was a different deal...he wanted 4K down and would not take the 2K loyalty cash off the SP. I told him no way.
 
Another sales manager in NJ just gave me this quote MSRP $50,160, sell price before the rebate $47,150...after he deducted the 2K rebate net sale cost was $45,150. Too high based on invoice price and my 2K cash loyalty.
 
I always re-confirm my conversations etc. via e-mail. From my communications with NJ salesmen over the past few weeks... these people like to play games. I am now planning to check out dealers in NY, CT and other states. Any recommendations will be very much appreciated.
 
I need to lease an FX35 before June and don't have time to play games. All I'm looking for is a good price with my 2K loyalty deducted from the selling price. Any additional help or suggestions will be very much appreciated. Thanks again!
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April Lease Numbers by hbo1ny
Apr 09, 2009 (10:13 am)
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Carman:
Does IFS do 18K and 20K annual leases? If so, do you know what the current residual and money factor rates are for an 09 FX35 AWD for 36 and 39 months? Thanks.
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FX50? by calease
Apr 14, 2009 (3:18 pm)
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Anyone have the current money factor and residual values for the FX50? I am looking at a 10k annual 39 month lease. Thanks.
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Re: You CAN wrap the taxes in... [kyfdx] by sgillmore
Apr 15, 2009 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Apr 04, 2009 10:06 am)

So here is the latest update on the issue with the new york deal attempting to adjust the 'deal' after the fact.
 
To review the original lease deals was as follows:
 
fx35 with all five optional packages
 
- final price of vehicle 51,934.76
- 39 month term
- 15k miles
- Approximately 2500 for VA taxes
- 1000 down at drive off
- 662 monthly payment
 
The called saying initially that infinite 'rejected' rolling the taxes into the lease. After much back and forth they said that after talking to infiniti they could in fact roll the taxes into the cap cost of the car. However this 'changed' the deal. Bear in mind this is after everything was signed, and we have driven away with the car.
 
They now say the deal would look like this:
 
- final price of vehicle 51,934.76
- 39 month term
- 15k miles
- Approximately 2500 for VA taxes
- 1000 down at drive off
- 699 monthly payment
 
So they are proposing adding on about 40 dollars to the monthly payment
 
After asking how they did the original calculation they stated they had estimated the taxes based on a 39 month lease at 630 payment, bringing the monthly up to 662. So somehow they estimated taxes on a 24,500 total payment over the life of the lease, so effectively 1228 dollars of 'tax payment'.
 
This doesn't make total sense to me as I'd assume they would be familiar with rolling the full tax payment into the price of the vehicle.
 
So a couple questions here:
 
- Does this seem right, I.E. so these 'new numbers' look like a 'good deal' still or are they trying so somehow recoup some of the cost of the car?
 
- If they did roll the taxes in as they should have, is that $662 dollar monthly payment still attainable, or is that just to low given the car, it's final price and packages?
 
- Is this even possible, should they have to eat the mistake and absorb that additional cost which they claim was miscalculated?
 
Thanks in advance for the review.
 
Simon
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Good deal? by jayrandall
Apr 18, 2009 (1:28 pm)
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A buddy of mine got offered the following deal:
  
He has 4 payments remaining on his current FX35 lease (about $2,350 total). The dealership has offered to off-set his remaining payments and will cut him a check for $700 when he signs his new lease deal (see below). His current car would be 'grounded' at the dealership and then he would receive a final invoice from Infiniti Financial Services the following month and conclude the final payment.
  
His new lease deal is for an '09 FX35 AWD, with the Premium package, Nav and Deluxe Touring. MSRP about $51,480 and he got the car down to invoice (about 47k) and he is getting the customer loyalty of 2k. 10k miles a year, $1,500 down and his monthly payment inclusive of taxes is $600.00, 39 month term.
  
He can't decide if taking on the new lease is smart, even though the dealership is helping him payoff the previous lease.
  
Thoughts?
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Re: FX35 Lease [jxlxr] by abuki
Apr 20, 2009 (1:20 pm)
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Replying to: jxlxr (Mar 12, 2009 8:23 am)

Hi jxlxr, can you let me know which NY dealer you got this from?
Thanks
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09 fx 35 lease deal I just made by alisalim
Apr 20, 2009 (7:47 pm)
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2009 fx 35
Premium pkg
Nav pkg
deluxe pkg
Tech pkg
DVD entertainment
splash guards/cargo organizer/wheel locks/ Nitrogen in tires
MSRP 57314
Purchase price 52500
39 months/15k/(2000 loyalty cash as money down) no down from my pocket
702/month with ohio tax
residual 50%, Money factor 0.00091
 
I thing that is a reasonable deal, what do you guys think.

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