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Re: 2007 S2000 Lease Payment [dwynne] by accelerator
Oct 04, 2007 (4:59 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Oct 03, 2007 2:17 pm)

I'm glad I have the "whatever Honda calls" it. It is not overly instrusive and kicks in just when I would have lost it. On a day when it is just starting to rain, you can have one harrowing experience, or fun experience, depending on your take. I'll admit, when the traffic is at its absolute minimal and it has just started sprinkling, I'll turn off the "whatever Honda calls it" and kick the rear end out from time to time; for the most part though, I do leave it turned on just to protect me from myself.
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Re: 2007 S2000 Lease Payment [accelerator] by dwynne
Oct 04, 2007 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: accelerator (Oct 04, 2007 4:59 am)

The first gen S2000s needed it a lot more, I was just goofing around (driving maybe 8/10) on a country road in the 2001 and went into a decreasing radius turn a little too hot and "snap" it started around and got about half way there before I caught it. Lucky for me no one was coming or behind. The newer design is a lot more stable and I have never really had an issue, but having the electronic safety net would be nice.
 
Rain? You drive in the rain? I only drive mine when the weather suitable for top-down driving . Bad weather fins me in something else.
 
Dennis
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Re: 2007 S2000 Lease Payment [dwynne] by accelerator
Oct 04, 2007 (8:01 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Oct 04, 2007 7:07 am)

My S is my daily driver so yeah, rain or shine, I'm in it. Needing only 3 seconds to get the top up/down, the moment it stops raining, the top is back down.
 
My S is my escape from reality, rain or shine.
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trading up? by yinzer1
Oct 06, 2007 (2:01 pm)
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Wonder if a lease guru could help me out...
 
I am playing around with an idea of trading up to a new s2000 because of the falling demand. I have a 2004 silverstone with red/black interior. It has 30,000 miles and i have pay off of 19,500 which seems to be in the neighborhood of trade in value. I'm thinking of leasing rather than my current finance to get one of the last of the great breeds. My payments are $400 and i have four years left - got it last year at a great price.
 
Here is one quote i got...
 
"2007 Honda S2000 Lease with 12K mi/yr, all tax (7%) and fees included. You're right, need to appraise trade-in here.
  
36 month lease with only 35 payments of $583.61, and just $658.61 due at pickup
42 month lease with only 41 payments of $530.21, and just $605.21 due at pickup
48 month lease with only 47 payments of $505.00, and just $580.00 due at pickup"
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Re: trading up? [yinzer1] by dwynne
Oct 06, 2007 (3:15 pm)
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Replying to: yinzer1 (Oct 06, 2007 2:01 pm)

I did this - traded in my 2001 for a new 2005 2.5 years ago. They gave me what I needed for the 01 and sold me the 05 for invoice (at that time there were no dealer incentives). If Honda brings back cheap S2000 leases again I would try to do the same deal again to get a newer car.
 
Trade in value for a 2004 with 30k in excellent condition is about $20k, depending on who you ask. You can bet the dealer's book will be lower.
 
Right now Edmunds is showing no incentives on either the 07 or 08 S2000s - but there was up to $2k in dealer money on the 07s earlier.
 
You need to break the deal down into its component parts:
 
Negotiate the price on the new car - either 07 or 08 as close to invoice as you can get, below invoice if there is dealer money. You may be able to get one below invoice since there is a lot of holdback in a $35k car.
 
Negotiate the lease terms separately only after you have gotten the price you can live with. Check sites like www.leasecompare.com to see if they can offer you a better rate and to make sure the dealer is giving you a fair deal.
 
Negotiate the trade in last - you should be able to maybe get enough to cover the buyout on your current car if it is in great shape, but maybe not. If you deal down low on the new car they will want you to deal down low on the trade.
 
Don't play payments - deal on the price, the lease terms, the dealer fees, and the trade and see where the payments fall once you know you have good deals in each part of the transaction. If you can live with the payments, then do the deal.
 
Dennis
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Dennis by yinzer1
Oct 06, 2007 (3:22 pm)
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Probably the best time to negotiate is when the 08's start rolling onto the lots, right? When would that be?
 
I got some internet prices - should i just use lease compare with the internet prices?
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leasing by yinzer1
Oct 06, 2007 (3:29 pm)
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Wow - it looks like leasing is not strong on the s2000 anymore. I just did the numbers on the leasecompare.
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Re: Dennis [yinzer1] by dwynne
Oct 06, 2007 (9:02 pm)
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Replying to: yinzer1 (Oct 06, 2007 3:22 pm)

I would say if your dealer has left over 07s they should be dealing on them now. Hopefully Edmunds will show there is still dealer money on them.
 
Once you have a good price, you get the lease numbers from the dealer - then compare them at leasecompare (get it, lease compare?) . If LC has a better deal, you can lease it through them - and they buy the car at your price from the dealer and lease it to you. On cars that have not trouble selling, like the 08 Accord (right now) and the new G37 from Infiniti the LC lease price is probably a big money saver. When sales are slow and the manufacturer has to offer special rates (like they did on the 07 Accord earlier this year and the Infiniti M34/M45) and normally no third party bank can touch.
 
Dennis
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Re: leasing [yinzer1] by dwynne
Oct 06, 2007 (9:07 pm)
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Replying to: yinzer1 (Oct 06, 2007 3:29 pm)

Did you check the 07 or 08 numbers? Once the model year ends the rates go up on the "old" cars since they are now considered used to the lease bank.
 
The S used to be a strong lease car due to high demand, low supply, and high resale value. They have been on the market for so long and there is a lot of competition so they don't hold value nearly the way they did - the result is a more expensive 3rd party lease.
 
Honda is having a lot of trouble selling them and has lately not had many cheap leases. That seems strange, but if you think about it they want to sell the cars since if they lease you one cheap they are likely to get it back then have to sell it again. I am hoping they will get motivated to offer cheap leases again, but I keep watching and they don't have anything nearly as cheap as I got on my 2005.
 
Dennis
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Re: 2007 S2000 Lease Payment [bvance] by Car_man HOST
Oct 08, 2007 (3:00 am)
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Replying to: bvance (Oct 03, 2007 8:32 am)

Hi bvance. Let's work up a lease payment on this car for you and see what we come up with. According to my calculations, if you were to lease a 2007 Honda S2000 that has an MSRP of $34,885 and a selling price of $31,995 through Honda Finance right now for 36 months with 15,000 miles per year, your zero down, pre-tax monthly payment should be around $514 assuming that you qualify for its top credit tier and pay a security deposit at lease signing.
 
Having said this, given the $2,000 dealer cash that Honda is currently providing on the '07 S2000 you should be able to do better than $31,995 on one right now.
 
Car_man
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