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Honda S2000 Lease Questions

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2007 S2000 Lease Payment by hlv
Sep 08, 2007 (4:06 pm)
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Car Man,
 
I'm so confussed with how to calculate a lease payment. I read all the posts and just can't get it through my thick skull.
 
Could you tell me what a fair monthly lease payment would be for a 2007 S2000, 36 month lease, 0 down, (first months payment and security deposit) through Honda? The sales price is 30,000 plus 7.75% tax. Also what percentage should the residual be and what is the percentage based upon, sales price or MSRP.
 
Thank you so much for any help you can provide!!!!
 
Lee
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Re: 2007 S2000 Lease Payment [hlv] by accelerator
Sep 10, 2007 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: hlv (Sep 08, 2007 4:06 pm)

I'm not carman and there or other factors, but based on your numbers, this is what I have (assuming Preferred Credit):
 
Residual: 51%
Money Factor: .00266
Down Payme: $0.00
Term: 36 months
Mileage: 36K (I assumed this)
Payment W/O TAX: $494
 
If you have a trade-in, that will affect how much tax you actually have to pay. If you are trying to prepare before you go see the dealer, you need to know all the different scenarios (e.g. before tax is figured in, after, how much your trade-in is worth, etc). If you have a trade-in, take your car in and have them appraise it so you know if the dealer is offering a fair deal. They do this all day and if they know you know the numbers for one sceanrio, they'll simply present you with another scenario and you lose your advantage. When I shopping for my S2000, the dealership I worked with gave me all the numbers I needed (and asked for) AND allowed me to leave and validate what they were stating was true... It was and I bought it. Don't be afraid to go in there with pencil, paper, laptop, palm pilot, what ever tools you need. They have them, why not you?
 
Don't get frustrated, it is a learning curve. My recommendation is to study and understand where the values are coming from and how they are figured... You absolutely have to understand the leasing jargon or you will get taken for a ride. I got my lease payment below $400 but it seems the average is around $450-500, from the postings I've seen here.
 
Oh, if you are in Texas, on a lease, you DO pay the taxes on the entire price of the car and not just the depreciation like you do in some states.
 
If you get a lease quote from your dealer (either from their print out or you jot them down on paper) feel free to post the numbers here and we'll give you our opinions on their offer. There are quite a few of us who monitor the S2000 forums.
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Re: 2007 S2000 Lease Payment [hlv] by habitat1
Sep 10, 2007 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: hlv (Sep 08, 2007 4:06 pm)

I'm also not Car Man or a leasing expert, but I will add my 2 cents that, if the monthly lease payment was going to be in the $500 range, you might want to consider buying.
 
I bought a 2002 S2000 for $33.8k (including 5.75% taxes) in November 2001, drove it for 2.5 years and 18,000 miles and traded it in on an Acura TL in May 2004 for $23,200. Had I wanted to go through the effort, I likely could have gotten $24,000+ in a private sale.
 
I have heard of deals as much as $5-6k off MSRP on a new S2000. At that kind of discount, and with the likelihood that they won't be around after this year, I'd be willing to bet a well maintained one will sell for well over $20k three years from now. I think I'd rather buy for $30k or less, than do a 3 year lease that will cost $18k over that time.
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Re: 2007 S2000 Lease Payment [hlv] by Car_man HOST
Oct 03, 2007 (2:26 am)
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Replying to: hlv (Sep 08, 2007 4:06 pm)

Hi hlv. Edmunds has a great article that provides a detailed description of how lease payments are calculated. You definitely should check it out, Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.
 
I would be happy to estimate what this car's current lease payment should be for you. I need both its MSRP and selling price to do so. In your post you mentioned that its selling price is $30,000, but you never mentioned its MSRP. For now I will assume that the MSRP is $34,885. According to my calculations, if you were to lease this Honda S2000 through Honda Finance right now for 36 months with 12,000 miles per year, your zero down, pre-tax monthly payment would be around $436.
 
Car_man
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2007 S2000 Lease Payment by bvance
Oct 03, 2007 (8:32 am)
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Car_man
 
What would the approx payment be going with 15,000 miles. Selling price would be $31,995 and msrp of $34,885, zero down 36 months.
 
Thanks
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Re: 2007 S2000 Lease Payment [bvance] by accelerator
Oct 03, 2007 (9:32 am)
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Replying to: bvance (Oct 03, 2007 8:32 am)

You can do better than $32,000!
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Re: 2007 S2000 Lease Payment by bvance
Oct 03, 2007 (10:37 am)
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Actually the price would be $29,500 for the S2000 but I am figuring any neg equity we may have on our 06 Accord coupe.
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Re: 2007 S2000 Lease Payment [accelerator] by dwynne
Oct 03, 2007 (11:02 am)
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Replying to: accelerator (Oct 03, 2007 9:32 am)

I have not seen the October Honda incentives yet, but I would ASSUME there would still be "marketing assistance" for S2000s. I was surprised that Honda continued to make them for 2008 since they sell so slowly and have to have a lot of "help" to move off the lots.
 
Love mine, though.
 
Dennis
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Re: 2007 S2000 Lease Payment [dwynne] by accelerator
Oct 03, 2007 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (Oct 03, 2007 11:02 am)

Hey dwynne, this forum has been so quiet lately... Good to "see" you again.
 
I'm 5500 miles into mine (I actually had my first oil change today thanks due to the maintenance minder system). I am still in love with this car. No regrets.
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Re: 2007 S2000 Lease Payment [accelerator] by dwynne
Oct 03, 2007 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: accelerator (Oct 03, 2007 12:08 pm)

If they bring back the cheap lease deals before mine is up, I will replace my '05 with a new car. If not, then I am planning on buying mine off the end of the lease.
 
I was able to swap my first S (2001) for the 2005 by getting enough out of it to pay off the lease early with no negative equity and get the cheap deal on the newer car.
 
No regrets from me either, but I do wish I had the DSC/VSC/whatever Honda calls it (skid control) which is the one thing my "old" model lacks.
 
Dennis

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