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Re: Honda Pilot 2009 lease Question/opinion [denniscc] by stoopy
Apr 11, 2009 (7:57 pm)
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Replying to: denniscc (Apr 10, 2009 11:09 am)

This is for everyone who thinks leasing a $35,000 Pilot for $500 a month is a good financial decision.
 
If you can get a sale price of $31,000 and get a 72 month bank loan for $30,000 at 6.59% (average bank rate), your monthly payment would be $505. After 36 months you would owe $16,058.81 on a vehicle with a 36 month residual of $17,750. So you would be well over $1,500 in positive equity. WHY THROW AWAY $18,000 in lease payments???
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Re: Best deal I have seen on EXL lease [docscott1] by bigdadi118
Apr 12, 2009 (3:40 am)
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Replying to: docscott1 (Apr 11, 2009 4:31 pm)

docscott1 - you can zoom in 150% after you downloaded the pdf file by clicking the link at bottom of ad. ... For details, download the PDF.
 
If the ad says $0 down or trade, that means the special is good only by taking NO TRADE, very tricky. I don't understand it as they can make more money with taking the trade-in, but that's what they told me before, no trade in order to take this special deal.
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Re: Want to know if this lease is a good deal! [abibala] by ocautoseeker
Apr 12, 2009 (10:20 am)
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Replying to: abibala (Apr 11, 2009 5:16 pm)

ways to reduce monthly payments:
 
1. more money down (not advised)
2. larger dealer discount
3. less annual mileage (although honda doesn't publish 10k annual mile leases)
 
in your case, i'd wanna' see if the dealer(s) you're shopping will increase your discount, so you can put down less money. $2000 drive offs is kinda' high for a pilot. drives should be somewhere between $750-$1500 depending on dmv fees and whether or not you pay the lease acquisition fee upfront ($595), and/or if you're in one of those wacky states where you're forced to pay sales tax upfront.
 
use that $1500 dealer cash to it's full advantage; meaning, try to get it all! god rule of thumb on 36 mo leases - for every $100 you get the dealer to knock off, assume ~$3/mo in savings on your payments.
 
the key to an attractive lease would involve a high residual value (set by the bank), a low money factor (bank has a base rate, but dealer can mark up), and an aggressive selling price/capcost. in your case, the residual and money factor are as good as they can be. the selling price is very good, but definitely a little more money on the table tow work with. sometimes, 2 outta' 3 ain't bad.
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Re: Best price received on Pilot EX-L 2009 [docscott1] by charriman
Apr 13, 2009 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: docscott1 (Apr 11, 2009 4:33 pm)

first quote is at 515.00 a mnth. When I told the dealer thats not a good price that I am looking for 470.00 a mnth or less. and restated - NO MONEY DOWN. I will not pay cap cost reduction etc. I re-stated i will pay only taxes and dmv fees only upfront. So then dealer comes back with 468.00 a month - with 2500 upfront. Completley ignoring my STATEMENT of no up front money. Its amazing never can they just shoot straight and not play games. Its very frustrating when you tell someone exact plan for what you will pay. and then they twist it up.
Based on all my work - i would think I can get 470.. a mnth - its quite aggressive but i think doable.
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Re: Best price received on Pilot EX-L 2009 [charriman] by stoopy
Apr 13, 2009 (8:12 pm)
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Replying to: charriman (Apr 13, 2009 2:35 pm)

Again, why lease if you can buy for about the same money. Plus the IRS will let you claim the sales tax on your 2009 Tax Return. I don't get it. Is Honda putting something in the water supply? Hmmm...pay X amount to lease or the same (less after tax break) amount to BUY. It's a no brainer. You can lease a loaded Subaru Tribeca for $400 max. Some are saying as low as $360 with zero down. That makes more sense. There's no way I'm dropping $500 a month to borrow a car for 3 years. Especially when Hondas are SUPPOSED to have this amazing resale value. If your payments add up to 50% of the original value of the car I guess it ain't such a great resale value after all. If you can't save at least $100 leasing vs buying DON'T LEASE.
 
Also, the guy a few posts up said "Ways to lower your payment" and listed LARGER DEALER DISCOUNT as a tip. Good luck. These Honda dealers think their vehicles are made out of solid gold. Not much negotiating room at all. Best way to lower your payment is to shop a different brand OR BUY like I've been saying all along. Honda and leasing should not even be allowed in the same sentence.
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06 Pilot going back, looking for new by ck90211
Apr 14, 2009 (5:55 pm)
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My 06 EX-L is due to return end of the month. Still runs/looks perfect, and economical too ($289/month nothing upfront). Was thinking about extending the lease but since no more warranty, I wanted to look around to see what else. Best 09 Pilot EX-L 2WD deal I seen so far is Boch in MA for $388 nothing down. Is that the case or has someone managed to find something cheaper?
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Re: Best price received on Pilot EX-L 2009 [docscott1] by charriman
Apr 14, 2009 (6:24 pm)
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Replying to: docscott1 (Apr 11, 2009 4:33 pm)

i went to two dealers so far. One out of the gate said 515.00mnth - when i pushed they were willing to do 468.00. Second dealer said 535.00 out of the gate - when pushed for better price they said they would do 450.00. I plan to wrap it up friday/saturday at a price of 430.00mnth if possible.
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2009 Pilot EX-L...First Time Leaser (Possibly) by freshy
Apr 18, 2009 (8:43 pm)
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I've never leased a car before. Know nothing about it. Scared.
 
After searching all day for a certified pre-owned Pilot, we decided that leasing an 09 might be the way to go to keep the monthly in our budget. Our last stop of the day, we discussed with the sales manager $3000 down and $320/month with 15k miles annually. Sounds like a good deal to me....too good (they had $399 offer on the windshield).
 
I'm hoping to finish this off tomorrow, but have no idea what to look for in the lease agreement. What should I look for in the contract...are there catches or concerns, or will it be pretty straight forward? I expect him to come back at $350/month. I've researched a bit tonight, but the money factor is new and confusing to me. Any help and/or solid advise would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
CP
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Re: 2009 Pilot EX-L...First Time Leaser (Possibly) [freshy] by ck90211
Apr 18, 2009 (10:11 pm)
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Replying to: freshy (Apr 18, 2009 8:43 pm)

Since I am about to return my Pilot back to Honda, I would suggest looking carefully at:
 
1. The obvious, such as cost of the car, money factor, residual, etc.. You can cruise the rest of the forum to understand what these are.
 
2. Taxes. Are you getting taxed for the whole amount of the car? or just the monthly payment? Plus are the state/dealers fees clear and legit?
 
3. Allowances (mileage, damage, penalties).
 
I just had Honda's inspector (they outsource to SGS) inspect my soon-to-return 06 Pilot. It still looks great (no dents or bodily damages), and even the inspector said so, but they are very severe with every nick/scratch. Just some chips/scratches on hood and near door handles came out to $1320!!!! A body/detailing shop could have easily fix this for $ 200 or less. Luckily it is still within the $1500 allowance from Honda.
 
I can't help but think the high estimate is Honda's way of trying to extract more money from expiring leases, or a way of getting me to buy/continue leasing this, or another Honda vehicle (since they will often overlook penalties if I buy/lease another Honda).
 
Anyhow good luck on your new lease.
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Re: 2009 Pilot EX-L...First Time Leaser (Possibly) [freshy] by bigdadi118
Apr 18, 2009 (10:14 pm)
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Replying to: freshy (Apr 18, 2009 8:43 pm)

freshy
09 EX L FWD
$389 with zero down, 12k mi/yr, 3 yr lease
$399 with zero down, 15k mi/yr, 3 yr lease
 
if you put 3k down and you lose them all if your car is totaled, so no money or low down are better.

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