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Re: 299 Pilot Lease [pilotbound1] by golic
Nov 25, 2008 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: pilotbound1 (Nov 21, 2008 7:41 pm)

I don't know if this has been discussed recently. But my philosophy has always been to put zero down on a lease. Other than of course, your standard fees, etc.
 
In essence, two things are occurring with a down payment. First, you are making a large prepayment that is not necessary. Why put $2,500 down today, when you can spread that $2500 out over 36 months?
 
Second. Extreme example - but this best illustrates my concern. You take your shiny new leased vehicle, drive off the lot and two weeks later you total the car. The good news is - the lease company is taken car of, since GAP is usually built into either the lease or the insurance, the car dealer is happy, since now they not only have one sale, but possibly two. And you, well - guess what your $2,500 down payment is gone - no insurance recoupment, nothing, zilch.
 
something to consider....anyway, I am back at reading the board, my 05 Pilot is coming off lease and I was disappointed to read consumer reports discussion on it in the November issue. So looking forward for you all to educate me on the 09 Pilot pricing...
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Re: 09 EX-L Lease Quote - Can I do better? [jenn22] by dannyhashovav
Nov 25, 2008 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: jenn22 (Nov 25, 2008 4:28 am)

Its the Cap Cost ($31,000) plus the Residual ($18,258) times the money factor (0.0011).
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2009 Honda Pilot lease offer by Car_noob
Dec 02, 2008 (6:48 pm)
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Hi, I have been reading through these forums and they are very helpful.
 
I was hoping that someone can take a look at a quote I got for a 2009 Honda Pilot EX-L w/RES.
MSRP $37,465 Risidual 48%
Invoice $33,980 Money Factor .00110 or 2.64%
Promotion -$1,250 15,000 Miles
Hold Back -$600 36 month lease
sale price $32,130
 
With a down payment of $1,026, my monthly payments will be $499.54 per month
 
Do you think this is a competitive quote? Can I get a better deal? What can I negotiate if anything?
 
Thanks for the time to read this. Any help or comments are apprecaited and welcomed.
 
PS - not sure if this makes a difference but I live in Northern NJ....
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Car man: 2009 Pilot EX-L AWD by golic
Dec 03, 2008 (5:52 am)
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Car man:
 
Would you be so kind as to provide the current residual % and money factor for a 36 month lease on a 2009 Pilot EX-L AWD, with 15K miles (is it still a 2% change for 12K on the residual?) I am located in the chicago market.
 
I am coming off a lease of a 2005 Pilot - is there any Honda Loyalty promotion? Do you think there will be any significant changes to January numbers versus December?
 
Thanks in advance...
G
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Lease for a 2009 Honda Pilot EX-L AWD by ny14337
Dec 03, 2008 (8:03 pm)
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There is a leasing company that has a deal with my job that gave me a quote for a 36 month lease on a 2009 Honda Pilot EX-L AWD, 12,000 miles per year. Unfortunately, I didn't get the residual, money factor, etc... for the car, but here is what I did get:
 
$399 a month for 36 months. Due at signing would be:
  - $1251 sales tax
  - $595 bank fee
  - $399 first month
  - DMV fees
 
This seems like a pretty good deal. The salesman said that he might be able to get the monthly payment down an additional $5-$10 depending on how the dealership is moving cars. If it's the end of the month and they are looking to make their number, I should get a better deal.
 
I'm thinking about taking the deal but I'm not sure if I should maybe wait until January to see if the deals get better. Any thoughts?
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Mike
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Re: Deal or Not Deal for Pilot 2009? [dannyhashovav] by Car_man HOST
Dec 04, 2008 (3:09 am)
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Replying to: dannyhashovav (Nov 14, 2008 7:06 am)

No problem, dannyhashovav. I'm glad that you like Edmunds.com so much. We have a lease calculator right here: Edmunds.com Lease Calculator. You also can learn how to calculate lease payments on your own (I use an Excel spreadsheet that I've created) by reading the following article: Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.
 
Lower residual values mean higher lease payments. If the Pilot's resids fall in January, which they likely will, and Honda does not improve its money factors its lease payments will rise. Manufacturers usually lower their money factors throughout the model year to offset any natural drop in residuals.
 
A $450 doc fee does sound high. This is really nothing more than a fluff charge that adds to the dealer profit. Look at it as part of the total price that they are charging you for this truck. If the total price, including the doc fee, is less than what you would have to pay elsewhere, the fee doesn't matter. If the fee jacks up the total cost to a higher price than you might pay elsewhere negotiate more or go with a different dealer.
 
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Re: questions.... [citivas] by Car_man HOST
Dec 04, 2008 (3:56 am)
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Replying to: citivas (Nov 22, 2008 6:41 pm)

Hi citivas. Here's the information that you're looking for. Honda Finance's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 Honda Pilot Touring 2WD without the entertainment system with 12,000 miles per year are .00110 and 46%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its "Super Preferred" credit tier and pay a security deposit at lease signing.
 
The used vehicle market has absolutely imploded over the last several months. It started with used SUV values getting crushed by high gas prices, but now there is weakness on just about all models, across the board. I'm not surprised that the residual values that you have been seeing seem low.
 
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Re: Car man: 2009 Pilot EX-L AWD [golic] by Car_man HOST
Dec 04, 2008 (4:06 am)
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Replying to: golic (Dec 03, 2008 5:52 am)

Here's the information that you're looking for, golic. Honda Finance's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 Honda Pilot EX-L AWD without the entertainment system with 15,000 miles per year are .00110 and 49%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its "Super Preferred" credit tier. The residual value for a lease with 12,000 miles per year is indeed 2% higher.
 
I don't believe that Honda is currently offering any owner loyalty incentives on the 2009 Pilot, other than the fact that as a returning Honda Finance lessee you are eligible to have your truck's security deposit waived for free. It is difficult to say what Honda's January lease program will be like at this point.
 
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Re: Lease for a 2009 Honda Pilot EX-L AWD [ny14337] by Car_man HOST
Dec 04, 2008 (4:09 am)
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Replying to: ny14337 (Dec 03, 2008 8:03 pm)

Hi Mike. It would be a good idea to find out what the truck's selling price is before pulling the trigger on this deal. As you may already know, the selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable, just as if you were paying cash for or financing them. Without this number, it is difficult to tell if there is still room left to negotiate. Let us know what the selling price is and I'm sure that either myself or another knowledgeable community member will gladly tell you what they think.
 
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Re: 2009 Honda Pilot lease offer [Car_noob] by explorer1
Dec 04, 2008 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: Car_noob (Dec 02, 2008 6:48 pm)

Just purchased a 2009 Pilot EXL from Boch Honda in Ma, $29600 with 988 down, this includes first month and all doc fees, I made the deal over the phone for $417 per month including taxes (5%)
 
leasing for 3/36 15k miles 49% residual
 
very good price I think from the research I've done, give them a call.

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