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Honda Pilot Lease Questions

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Re: questions.... [hellmglecar] by Car_man HOST
Nov 13, 2008 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: hellmglecar (Nov 07, 2008 7:54 pm)

Hi hellmglecar. Honda Finance's residual values for the Pilot vary by term (length of lease), mileage allowance, and trim level. Honda Finance's current residual for a 36 month lease of a 2009 Pilot Touring 4WD with the entertainment system, navigation, and 15,000 miles per year is 46%. If you were to lease with only 12,000 miles per year, this residual value would be 2% higher...48%.
 
The $1,250 is a cash incentive that Honda is providing to dealers on '09 Pilots that are leased through Honda Finance right now. Dealers can try to pocket this incentive or they can pass it on to the consumer. Taking advantage of this cash, if you are in an area that has a decent level of competition you should be able to negotiate a capitalized cost that's below dealer invoice without much trouble.
 
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Re: Lease- 12k miles vs. 15k miles [fudgebar] by Car_man HOST
Nov 14, 2008 (4:23 am)
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Replying to: fudgebar (Nov 09, 2008 4:15 pm)

Hi fudgebar. I believe that the dealer invoice price of a 2009 Honda Pilot EX-L AWD is currently $32,548. That puts the selling price of $30,458 that you were quoted at around $2,000 under dealer invoice. This is an excellent selling price for this truck. Just make sure that the dealer is using Honda Finance's current buy rate lease money factor to calculate your monthly payment and you're in business.
 
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Re: Deal or Not Deal for Pilot 2009? [dannyhashovav] by Car_man HOST
Nov 14, 2008 (4:31 am)
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Replying to: dannyhashovav (Nov 13, 2008 2:27 pm)

Hi dannyhashovav. Honda's current lease program on the 2009 Pilot is scheduled to run through January 5th. While I don't anticipate it making any changes to this truck's lease program before than, anything is possible.
 
It is always tough to predict what manufacturers will do with their future incentives programs. The market for new vehicles certainly is tough right now. It wouldn't surprise me if Honda enhanced its lease program on the Pilot in January, but keep in mind though that its residual values will likely fall at the beginning of the year as well, offsetting much of any money factor enhancement.
 
In answer to your other questions, your state's DMV's registration fee is probably standard. I doubt that the dealer would try to pad it, but if you'd like you probably can find out more information on by by visiting the New York Department of Motor Vehicles site.
 
A capitalized cost reduction is really just a fancy name for a down payment that reduces the amount you are financing on your lease. It appears as though the dealer is charging you a minuscule cap cost reduction just to round off the amount due at signing to an even grand.
 
As a side note, the $45 doc fee that this dealer is charging you is extremely low. That's impressive because many dealerships try to pad the profit in deals by charging doc fees of several hundred dollars.
 
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Re: Deal or Not Deal for Pilot 2009? [Car_man] by dannyhashovav
Nov 14, 2008 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Nov 14, 2008 4:31 am)

Hi Car_man,
 
I want to be thorough in my negotiating the lease terms plus I am not rushing as I still have one month to go with my Murano, though the Honda dealership had offered to take it away. So theoretically, if Honda does not change lease program on Pilot, in Jan 2nd the residual value of Pilot 09 will drop a bit, and if MF stays the same at .0011 the lease payments could go down? Correct? Can you approximate the amount of residual decline in the begining of 09 on Pilot? I just want to see if waiting makes sense number wise. Can you also suggest a good and simple lease calculator so I can plug the numbers myself? What about the documentation fees of $450? Doesn't it seem high to you? Can I negotiate it?
 
Thanks much for your time and reply.
I think Edmunds is one of the best places to get enlightened and skilled at purchasing a car.
Thanks.
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Re: Deal or Not Deal for Pilot 2009? [dannyhashovav] by dannyhashovav
Nov 14, 2008 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: dannyhashovav (Nov 14, 2008 7:06 am)

Actually I think i made a mistake: If residual goes down the monthly payment will increase. Sorry. if you have a chance please respond to my other questions.
 
thanks again
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Re: Deal or Not Deal for Pilot 2009? [dannyhashovav] by dannyhashovav
Nov 14, 2008 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: dannyhashovav (Nov 14, 2008 8:35 am)

Dont mind me again. I looked it up: Title and registration would run about the same amount they've quoted me.
thanks
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09 EX-L Lease Quote - Can I do better? by milzo
Nov 17, 2008 (6:35 pm)
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Very thankful I found this forum. With all of your input/ feedback I hope not to leave any money on the table. That said here is where I am at.
 
2009 Pilot EX-L (no res), Cleveland Ohio, 7.75% sales tax.
MSRP = $35800
Invoice = $32500
Sell = $32500 - $1250 (rebate) - $250 (extra discount) = $31,000
Down pmt = $550 (includes all fees)
Pmt = $481 per mo including tax for a 36 mo lease.
 
The salesman is a friend of the family and stated this is the lowest he can possibly go. After reading other posts I am thinking its still $30-$40 a month high.
 
Thoughts?
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Invoice price of 2009 Honda Pilot EX-L 4WD with RES + the running boards wi by scottband
Nov 17, 2008 (7:31 pm)
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I'm going to lease a 2009 Honda Pilot EX-L 4WD with RES + the running boards with lights. When I ask for all of the details such as the cap cost, money factor, dealer cash, residual value, etc. how do I know what the invoice price is? Is there a way to find out the invoice price so I know I'm getting a good deal? I live in the Princeton, NJ area. Are leases going for invoice, above invoice? Thanks, Scott
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Re: Invoice price of 2009 Honda Pilot EX-L 4WD with RES + the running boards wi [scottband] by bigdadi118
Nov 17, 2008 (8:35 pm)
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Replying to: scottband (Nov 17, 2008 7:31 pm)

2009 Pilot 4x4 EXL with RES, before Dest Charge $670.00
  
MSRP: $36,795.00
INV...: $33,324.00
 
Running Board (different kinds) is option, 50% of list price is the invoice roughly.
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Re: 09 EX-L Lease Quote - Can I do better? [milzo] by dannyhashovav
Nov 18, 2008 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: milzo (Nov 17, 2008 6:35 pm)

Hi Milzo,
 
i think your family friend can do better here is a breakdown from my spreadsheet based on your numbers:
 
Step 1: Calculate the Capitalized Cost
Vehicle Selling Price: $31,000
Down-payment $0
Total: $31,000

Step 2: Calculate Vehicle's Residual Value
MSRP: $35,800
Residual: 51%
Total: $18,258

Step 3: Determine Vehicle's Total Depreciation
Residual - Cap Cost: $12,742

Step 4: Determine Vehicle's Monthly Depreciation
Lease Term in Months: 36
Total: $354


Step 5: Determine Interest Charges
Money Factor: 0.00110
Total: 54

Step 6: Calculate Monthly Payment
Total Pre-tax Monthly Payments $408
Sales Tax Rate: 7.75%
Taxes per month: $32
Monthly Payments+Tax: $440
 
Hope that helps
Dannyhashovav

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