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Re: Deal Negotiation [pilotnoob] by bigdadi118
Nov 10, 2008 (6:42 am)
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Replying to: pilotnoob (Nov 10, 2008 4:31 am)

I tried Costco service to buy Honda before and that given contact person at the dealer didn't even call or email back.
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LX Lease Quote - Comments? by panictour
Nov 12, 2008 (9:01 am)
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Thanks for all the information. This board is great. I'm assembling quotes from several dealers for a LX lease. Here is the 1st one in the door.
 
New 2009 Honda Pilot LX 4WD.......cash purchase = $26,800, tax 7% is $1,876.00, tags, title, registration and state doc fee are $143.50 for a total sale price of $28,819.50.
 
Lease using 0 down, 12,000 miles per year, 36 months x $383.31
 
Includes gap insurance, no disposition fee at the end, and $1,500 toward excess wear and tear at the end of the lease.
Residual value is $15,231.15
Money factor is .0011.
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Re: Deal Negotiation [kari56] by pilotsahm
Nov 13, 2008 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: kari56 (Nov 08, 2008 7:49 am)

Hi we too are looking for a new pilot.we sadly are going to replace our ody. we have been activly looking online for prices advice etc...
first off carsdirect.com for a price quote is a great start.
secondly,these boards are excellent place to find out about incentives and cashbacks etc.. (we are going to wait til late nov. to dec for a price reduction and incentives)
thirdly a wonderful teaching site on how to buy/lease a car and not get the "shaft" is http://www.carbuyingtips.com/ it is a lot of reading but the top ten scams run by a salesman is mindbending! also take the time to read the 2 sections How To Buy New Cars and Buy Cars Online
 
lastly route 23 honda , townehyundai in denville and Joyce honda in denville all pulled "stunts" on me please please please do your research before going in! i am currently researching sussex honda and some dealers in bergan county and parts of northeastern Pa.
 
good luck everyone here getting the vehicle for the price we want and need.
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Deal or Not Deal for Pilot 2009? by dannyhashovav
Nov 13, 2008 (2:27 pm)
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Can anyone predict or shed some insights on the MF going forward on Pilot 09 in this bad economy? I guess what I am asking is should I wait to get a better lease deal or act now? Can anyone tell me what other factors I should be considering and are always changing to the extent they can dramatically effect the lease deal?
 
Deal I am quoted is:
Honda 2009 EX-L AWD Pilot from Potamkin Honda in NYC
 
$437 per month (including NY tax) x 36months
Cap Cost 32,098
Est Res Value 18,291
Adjusted Cap Cost 32,030
 
Out of pocket:
$68 cap cost reduction - can any one explain this please?
$437 1st month payment
$450 registration fee - is there standard fee? Can dealers "play" these #s?
$45 doc fee
Total: $1,000 - I think $450 registration fees is a bit high...
 
I can wait another month or two to get the car for a better deal (at around $400), otherwise $10 - $15 a month will not make a difference and I'd rather get it now.
Thanks all.
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Re: questions.... [hellmglecar] by Car_man HOST
Nov 13, 2008 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: hellmglecar (Nov 07, 2008 7:54 pm)

Hi hellmglecar. Honda Finance's residual values for the Pilot vary by term (length of lease), mileage allowance, and trim level. Honda Finance's current residual for a 36 month lease of a 2009 Pilot Touring 4WD with the entertainment system, navigation, and 15,000 miles per year is 46%. If you were to lease with only 12,000 miles per year, this residual value would be 2% higher...48%.
 
The $1,250 is a cash incentive that Honda is providing to dealers on '09 Pilots that are leased through Honda Finance right now. Dealers can try to pocket this incentive or they can pass it on to the consumer. Taking advantage of this cash, if you are in an area that has a decent level of competition you should be able to negotiate a capitalized cost that's below dealer invoice without much trouble.
 
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Re: Lease- 12k miles vs. 15k miles [fudgebar] by Car_man HOST
Nov 14, 2008 (4:23 am)
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Replying to: fudgebar (Nov 09, 2008 4:15 pm)

Hi fudgebar. I believe that the dealer invoice price of a 2009 Honda Pilot EX-L AWD is currently $32,548. That puts the selling price of $30,458 that you were quoted at around $2,000 under dealer invoice. This is an excellent selling price for this truck. Just make sure that the dealer is using Honda Finance's current buy rate lease money factor to calculate your monthly payment and you're in business.
 
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Re: Deal or Not Deal for Pilot 2009? [dannyhashovav] by Car_man HOST
Nov 14, 2008 (4:31 am)
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Replying to: dannyhashovav (Nov 13, 2008 2:27 pm)

Hi dannyhashovav. Honda's current lease program on the 2009 Pilot is scheduled to run through January 5th. While I don't anticipate it making any changes to this truck's lease program before than, anything is possible.
 
It is always tough to predict what manufacturers will do with their future incentives programs. The market for new vehicles certainly is tough right now. It wouldn't surprise me if Honda enhanced its lease program on the Pilot in January, but keep in mind though that its residual values will likely fall at the beginning of the year as well, offsetting much of any money factor enhancement.
 
In answer to your other questions, your state's DMV's registration fee is probably standard. I doubt that the dealer would try to pad it, but if you'd like you probably can find out more information on by by visiting the New York Department of Motor Vehicles site.
 
A capitalized cost reduction is really just a fancy name for a down payment that reduces the amount you are financing on your lease. It appears as though the dealer is charging you a minuscule cap cost reduction just to round off the amount due at signing to an even grand.
 
As a side note, the $45 doc fee that this dealer is charging you is extremely low. That's impressive because many dealerships try to pad the profit in deals by charging doc fees of several hundred dollars.
 
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Re: Deal or Not Deal for Pilot 2009? [Car_man] by dannyhashovav
Nov 14, 2008 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Nov 14, 2008 4:31 am)

Hi Car_man,
 
I want to be thorough in my negotiating the lease terms plus I am not rushing as I still have one month to go with my Murano, though the Honda dealership had offered to take it away. So theoretically, if Honda does not change lease program on Pilot, in Jan 2nd the residual value of Pilot 09 will drop a bit, and if MF stays the same at .0011 the lease payments could go down? Correct? Can you approximate the amount of residual decline in the begining of 09 on Pilot? I just want to see if waiting makes sense number wise. Can you also suggest a good and simple lease calculator so I can plug the numbers myself? What about the documentation fees of $450? Doesn't it seem high to you? Can I negotiate it?
 
Thanks much for your time and reply.
I think Edmunds is one of the best places to get enlightened and skilled at purchasing a car.
Thanks.
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Re: Deal or Not Deal for Pilot 2009? [dannyhashovav] by dannyhashovav
Nov 14, 2008 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: dannyhashovav (Nov 14, 2008 7:06 am)

Actually I think i made a mistake: If residual goes down the monthly payment will increase. Sorry. if you have a chance please respond to my other questions.
 
thanks again
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Re: Deal or Not Deal for Pilot 2009? [dannyhashovav] by dannyhashovav
Nov 14, 2008 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: dannyhashovav (Nov 14, 2008 8:35 am)

Dont mind me again. I looked it up: Title and registration would run about the same amount they've quoted me.
thanks

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