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Re: Pilots Current Offers [dwynne] by bigdadi118
Apr 29, 2008 (6:01 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (Apr 29, 2008 1:18 pm)

Without the trade-in burden, I can lease Pilot AWD EXL 3-yr/12k per yr. at $0 down, 299/mo ... the best I can find, however that dealer can only offer me 17,000 trade-in
 
While I leased the Pilot AWD VP at 259/mo., not specailly low, that dealer gave me 20,500 trade-in.
 
Same car the trade in gap is 3,500 difference. This difference can of course offset quite something.
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Re: Pilots Current Offers [bigdadi118] by dwynne
Apr 30, 2008 (4:52 am)
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Replying to: bigdadi118 (Apr 29, 2008 6:01 pm)

You always have to factor a trade into things. When you bargain for the car vehicle you get the price as low as you can, then introduce the trade. The net of the difference will be the best deal.
 
You should never look at a deal as good or bad based on payments or payments and money down. If you know you have a good price on the new vehicle and if you have a trade get a fair price for it and the lease rate is nice - then you have a good deal. The worse thing anyone can do is to tell a dealer they want to lease and don't want to pay more than $xxx per month. The dealer will find a way to get to that number through high up front money or a LONG lease term - but in any case it will not be a good deal .
 
Sounds like got Edmunds or KBB trade in value or above for your trade and got a good price on your new Pilot = good deal.
 
Dennis
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Advice Needed with Buyout by ragecage
May 01, 2008 (6:12 am)
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Looking for advice. Here is my problem:
 
Have a 2006 Pilot EXL. Currently paying $364/mo. Lease is up 2/09. was a 36K mile cap and I already have 41K on it! I never intended for the mileage to be so high but the wife put over 20K on it the 1st year (one of the reasons she is the soon-to be ex! lol). Anyway, the buyout is like $20K. I have maintained the vehicle mechanically (almost to a fault). Should I buy it out knowing that the mileage penalty could be upwards of $2K or since the prices are coming down, should I take the hit and negotiate another deal. Can't really turn it in early. Any advice would be appreciated. Thx.
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Re: Advice Needed with Buyout [ragecage] by swampdragon
May 01, 2008 (6:39 am)
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Replying to: ragecage (May 01, 2008 6:12 am)

I am not sure what your choices are since you say you can't turn it in early.
 
When the lease comes closer to the end you have 4 choices-
Pay the penalty and turn it in
Buy it at the buyout price and keep it
Buy it and sell it privately
Buy it - buy/lease a new vehicle and trade in the 2006 pilot
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factory lease incentives gone by swampdragon
May 01, 2008 (6:40 am)
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For those who waited to get a better deal leasing I am not sure that they are still there. The regional lease special on the PIlot VP is no longer available.
 
I am not sure how good the dealers can do on lease prices without that support.
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Re: Advice Needed with Buyout [ragecage] by dwynne
May 01, 2008 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: ragecage (May 01, 2008 6:12 am)

As swampdragon said, you have several choices and you have to evaluate which one costs you the least money.
 
Figure it every possible way and see how it stacks up. I assume you have an AHFC lease and the over miles will be at $0.20 each since the MSRP of your EX-L is over $30k. So right now you are looking at $1,000 right now.
 
1) Park it, pay the rest of the payments, and turn it in next year and pay the penalty. Your cost would be the Payments x months left + penalty on 41k miles, plus insurance and tags (if needed).
 
2) Drive it, pay the rest of the payments, and turn it in next year and pay the penalty Your cost would be the Payments x months left + penalty on ??k miles plus insurance and tags - but you get use of the Pilot for this time. Set aside the $1k and every month set aside $0.20 per mile driven, then at lease end you have the money in the bank to pay the penalty.
 
3) Sell it or trade it to a dealer now. Get the current buy out not including tax and try to sell it to CarMax, DriversWay, or any other dealer. Your cost will be the difference between what you can get and the buy out price.
 
4) Sell it or trade it to a dealer at the end of the lease. Your cost will be the total of the remaining payments plus insurance and tags plus the difference between the buy out at lease end and what you can get a dealer to give you for it. You do get to keep driving it until the lease ends.
 
5) If you know someone that owns a car dealership, you can get them to help you sell your Pilot to a private party. In most states title can't pass from the lease bank to a third, non dealer, party. This would let you net more for your Pilot than a dealer would give you - but with Honda doing $3,500 incentives and 0.9% and 2.9% financing, this may be a hard sell. In some states (CA, I think) you can buy it, pay tax, then sell it to someone else and get your tax payment back if it is within xx days of when you purchased it. Again, it may be a hard sell with $4 gas and Honda's incentives.
 
6) Check the back of your lease contract, you may be able to turn it in early - but will have to pay all the remaining payments and the mileage charge. You would save insurance and tags, though. Read this carefully because in some contracts even though you paid all the payments and turned it in they can still come after you for more money. You are out all the money at one time with this method.
 
No good answer, but you may find that method #3 is your best bet - just get the pain over with now and get rid of the Pilot, insurance, and tags. Otherwise, then maybe #2 would be the way to go. You run the numbers and you decide as it is your money.
 
Dennis
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Re: factory lease incentives gone [swampdragon] by dwynne
May 01, 2008 (7:24 am)
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Replying to: swampdragon (May 01, 2008 6:40 am)

Too early to tell as Honda has NO lease deals on any models on their web page. Once they publish the sales numbers for April then I would expect to see either standard or special deals post on their web page for most models.
 
Will the cheap lease come back? Maybe or maybe not, it just depends on how many Pilots are still on the lots and how badly they want to move them.
 
Keep in mind that if they do big dealer money and cheap financing they get rid of the Pilot for good, if they give big dealer money and cheap LEASING then they get the Pilot back in years and have to figure out how to sell it all over again. So with a slow mover, they may have to offer cheap leases but they would much prefer it if everyone purchased their Pilot.
 
Dennis
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Re: factory lease incentives gone [dwynne] by bigdadi118
May 01, 2008 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (May 01, 2008 7:24 am)

They just expired yesterday. I think it will come out again after they ran some numbers, or they already had and awaiting the webmaster to update the site.
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Re: factory lease incentives gone [bigdadi118] by dwynne
May 01, 2008 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: bigdadi118 (May 01, 2008 9:01 am)

They do this every month - the old deals expire leaving nothing (a void in the deals) then after they look at the sales numbers and inventory levels they release new specials (or just post standard, non-discount lease deals). There can be a few days with nothing, but I would bet the new stuff will be posted before this weekend. The dealers may already have it in hand, so those in the market could contact their salesperson of choice and see what is up.
 
Dennis
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Re: Advice Needed with Buyout [dwynne] by ragecage
May 01, 2008 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (May 01, 2008 7:19 am)

Thanks all. I neglected to mention that I love the car. Maybe to rephrase the question: Is my buyout number a crappy one if I decide to purchase the car or should I turn it in even w/ the mileage penalty and go for say an accord? I guess it is rubbing me the wrong way to pay 20K for a car that might have almost 50K miles on it... Otherwise the thing is a creampuff, maintained well, and only a few standard shopping cart scratches.
 
Buying a car is such a hassle and I almost have no time to do it. I am not a huge "car person" and reliability is one of the reasons I stick w/ the Honda. My ex's car is a '98 CRV w/ 180K miles and it runs/looks like new. Again, any input on if buying it out is a good deal knowing the current new/used pilot landscape would be appreciated.
 
Brian

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