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Honda Odyssey Lease Questions

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Re: Help with payment calculation [treebeard1] by bobtnj
Jan 31, 2008 (9:44 pm)
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Replying to: treebeard1 (Jan 26, 2008 6:14 pm)

Where did you get this ?
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Re: Early re-lease [cookierex] by driverbri3
Feb 01, 2008 (5:54 am)
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Replying to: cookierex (Jan 29, 2008 7:55 pm)

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Those are great points.... The payoff amount currently is 20K which would be me upside down by about 4K on its true market value if I traded now. The residual is 18K so I might have less negative equity by the lease end. Maybe I should just hold out and see if any great lease deals appear that might lower the overrall cost of turning the present van in.
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Re: Help with payment calculation [treebeard1] by bdwatkiss
Feb 01, 2008 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: treebeard1 (Jan 26, 2008 6:14 pm)

I'm looking at the same 008 Honda Odyssey EX-L with the entertainment system but NO navigation...where did you get this deal? What was the sales tax...%?? Sounds like you got a great deal, I live in the PA. I would appreciate your replay tons. Thanks
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Re: lease 2008 touring without pax tires, fully loaded [betsykof] by cccompson
Feb 01, 2008 (2:23 pm)
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Replying to: betsykof (Jan 29, 2008 1:13 pm)

The price is too high by at least a grand, maybe two.
 
Just sell the '06 to the highest bidder. Most "book" numbers for this model are high by alot (the price we pay for heavy discounts on new ones). It's tough to sell a late model car privately so price it aggressively. If there's a Carmax near you, get a number from them too.
 
The other thing you could do is take that down payment money and de-PAX your '06 via buying new wheels and conventional tires.
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Re: Help with payment calculation [Car_man] by lonestar98
Feb 01, 2008 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jan 22, 2008 3:20 am)

Car Man,
 
I noticed your post above quoting
 
2008 Honda Odyssey EX-L with the entertainment system but NO navigation that has an MSRP of $34,445 and a selling price of $31,247 (invoice) through Honda Finance right now for 36 months with 12,000 miles per year, your zero down, pre-tax monthly payment would be around $381
 
My local dealers are quoting me $398/mo before tax on the same model. The are using the same selling price but they say w/ the $595 acq fee, there is no way to get to $381 w/ zero down. Any thoughts?
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Re: Help with payment calculation [lonestar98] by wyominggirl
Feb 01, 2008 (9:59 pm)
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Replying to: lonestar98 (Feb 01, 2008 6:51 pm)

Hi. I saw your post. I am completing a lease deal tomrorow on the '08 EXL-res in the Chicago area. It might help you to know that I negotiated a zero down, 12,000 miles per year, monthly payment of $381 before taxes.
 
I think your problem is that they are using the invoice price. Somewhere in these lease discussion pages is the formula the dealers use to calculate the monthly payment, and I found it very useful to me in my negotiations. If I plug your invoice price into the formula, the payment comes out to be $398 (assuming a money factor of .001130). However, the dealers can go below the invoice price. For the $381, our dealer used a price of $30,700. Another dealer was even a little lower, using a price of $30,500. The formula helps you make sure they aren't adding any other fees or using too high of a cost or money factor. In your case, however, it seems like you just need to negotiate the price down. Dealers are advertising sales prices of $29,770 in our area, so they can definitely go lower than invoice.
 
Hope that helps!
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Re: Help with payment calculation [wyominggirl] by lonestar98
Feb 03, 2008 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: wyominggirl (Feb 01, 2008 9:59 pm)

thanks for the info. you're right on the money as far as going below invoice. the dealer i had spoken w/ was very adamant that he would not go below invoice. however, i called around and another dealer is offering me $380/mo with a $760 drive off (first mo pymt, lic, etc).
 
i will look for the calculator you mentioned as it seems it would be useful.
 
enjoy your new van!
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Re: Help with payment calculation [lonestar98] by wyominggirl
Feb 03, 2008 (6:44 pm)
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Replying to: lonestar98 (Feb 03, 2008 1:58 pm)

You are very welcome. Your pre-tax monthly payment equates to a price of 30,650 as long as they are using the money factor of .00113. That is $50 better than the lowest price we could negotiate for a lease - pretty good. I still thought they could go lower since people are buying this car for a lot less. However, the $1,000 dealer cash does only apply to buying and not leases, and we simply couldn't get any dealer to go lower.
 
Your drive off cost does sound a little high. Our fees were $168 plus first month payment.
 
I found the number of the formula posting for the lease formula. It is a reply to colo232(posted Jan. 11, 2008) under the Honda Odyssey Lease section. I think it is posting #906. Good luck. We just picked up our van yesterday in Ocean Mist, and we love it!
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Re: Help with payment calculation [wyominggirl] by lonestar98
Feb 04, 2008 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: wyominggirl (Feb 03, 2008 6:44 pm)

i think the driveoff is about right (if i have all my numbers correct, i'm using online information for the fees)...
 
first mo pymnt = 380 +tx = 412
registration = 268
doc fee = 55
tire fee 8.75
 
that comes to $743.75.
 
I don't know what the other $16 are going...Not really a big deal for me.
 
The thing I am trying to decide is if I should act now or wait just a bit. I extended my Odyssey lease a couple of years ago, so I'm on a month to month at this point. I've only got a couple of months left now and I don't want to wait to the last second. However, I've seen no signs that the automotive biz is picking up, so perhaps these deals or better will be showing up? I see that Odyssey sales were down 21.7% when comparing January 08 to January 07. It would seem to me that Honda needs to either keep up the lease promotions or perhaps improve them.
 
Since I'm a current lease holder, I thought maybe Honda would throw a bone my way, like waiving the acq. fee or something? I wonder, has anyone received special offers from Honda finance?
 
Decisions, decisions.
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Re: lease 2008 touring without pax tires, fully loaded [cccompson] by betsykof
Feb 04, 2008 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: cccompson (Feb 01, 2008 2:23 pm)

thanks for the info, I'll work on my negotiating skills!!!!!

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