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Honda Civic Lease Questions

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Civic EX Lease Question by ashley45_91
May 19, 2009 (7:55 pm)
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Hi, I would really appreciate some advice. I've never leased a car before but this just doesn't seem right. I don't have the paperwork yet or the specific numbers becuse this was just the initial offer.
 
I went to a dealer and was offerred this on a 2009 Civic EX:
36month lease with 15k miles/yr
$500 down
Rolling about $1300 debt from my current car
I'm pretty sure they said they were coming down to $15,900 from the list price of $19,775
(I also have really good credit)
 
with a $349/month payment
 
Please help!! Thank you!
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Re: EX Lease in South Florida [soloman37] by nickr1
May 20, 2009 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: soloman37 (Apr 29, 2009 11:03 am)

Only the down payment and the monthly matter, correct. Some will "think about" and try to factor complicated, changing percentages of MF and residual but it's all nonsense if the dealer is jacking up the price of the car, forcing you to put too much down and giving you a high monthly offer. It's incredibly simple really, just add your down payment to the total monthly payments, that's your lease price, it's simply the total cash you give them for 36 months that matters.
 
I have found local NY Honda dealers to be difficult to work with as they offer no incentives or discounts and take maximum profit for themselves, that's their job after all, right? If a dealer says to you, "well, if you put more money down your monthly will be lower," you know it's time to head for the door.
 
You say you went to a couple of dealers, was the down and the monthly exactly the same between all dealers?
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Tough One: GX Lease details by newyork4me
Jun 01, 2009 (7:11 pm)
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Hi Car_man,
 
I hope you are ready for a tough one! Would you happen to have the details (MF & residual) on a GX lease for 12k or 15k miles?
 
Thanks very much!
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Re: Civic LX AT Lease [ghetto2315] by Car_man HOST
Jun 03, 2009 (2:46 am)
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Replying to: ghetto2315 (May 19, 2009 11:35 am)

You're very welcome, ghetto2315. I haven't seen the new Nissan info for June yet. I'll make some calls and see what I can find out for you today. Post a quick reminder for me in the Z Lease Questions discussion and I'll let you know what I find out.
 
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Re: Civic EX Lease Question [ashley45_91] by Car_man HOST
Jun 03, 2009 (2:56 am)
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Replying to: ashley45_91 (May 19, 2009 7:55 pm)

Hi Ashley. Since you are new to the world of leasing, you definitely should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.
 
In short, the best way to get a good deal on a leased vehicle is to negotiate as low a selling price as possible and then have the dealer calculate your monthly payment using its buy rate lease money factor. On a 2009 Civic Sedan EX, I personally would shoot for a selling price of a couple hundred dollars over dealer invoice minus the $1,000 dealer cash that is currently available on it. You cann look up the dealer invoice price over in the New Vehicle Pricing section of this site. This car's buy rate lease money factor is .00225 for consumers who qualify for its top aka "Super Preferred" credit tier.
 
I see that you are considering rolling $1,300 in negative equity from your current car into your new lease. May I ask why you are doing this? You would be better off waiting until you were less upside down, or not at all, on your current vehicle to get something new.
 
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Re: Tough One: GX Lease details [newyork4me] by Car_man HOST
Jun 03, 2009 (3:03 am)
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Replying to: newyork4me (Jun 01, 2009 7:11 pm)

Hi newyork4me. A Civic GX? Now that's an interesting one. I have to ask why you're interested in one? How does filling it with nat gas work? I believe that there's some sort of station that one can buy or lease from Honda that gets hooked up to the gas line at your home or business. Is that right?
 
As one might suspect, Honda is not currently providing any support on the Civic GX. As a result, if you were to lease one through Honda Finance right now, you would have to use its standard lease program. According to the latest information that I have seen, Honda Finance's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 Civic GX with 15,000 miles per year are .00290 and a terrible though not surprising 39%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top aka "Super Preferred" credit tier. The residual value for a lease with only 12,000 miles per year would be 2% higher.
 
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Re: Tough One: GX Lease details [Car_man] by newyork4me
Jun 03, 2009 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jun 03, 2009 3:03 am)

Thanks very much for the info! I'm actually looking at the GX because there are some pretty good incentives for buying a CNG vehicle (both at federal and state level). ($4,000 federal tax credit, and a couple states are offering 80% of the cost difference [up to $4,000 again] between the CNG and a gas engine version of hte car as rebates. They use the LX as the comparative vehicle, so it is essentially an automatic $4,000 rebate again. Total, they are $8k off.)
 
Yep, you can fill it up with a Phill (the home pump that connect to the nat. gas line) or you can do it at a select few CNG stations. There is one 3 miles from where I live, so it isn't that inconvenient, and I'm pretty sure I'd be the only person I know with a CNG car, so that makes it kinda fun. As a primary car, I doubt it would be too practical unless you live in CA (i live in the midwest), but as a city car it's not too bad.
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Re: Civic LX AT Lease [Car_man] by ghetto2315
Jun 04, 2009 (10:28 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jun 03, 2009 2:46 am)

Car_man, there is no 370Z section for Lease Questions... only for the 350. Back on topic with the Civic Lease Questions. Did the Residuals and MF stay the same or change for June?
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Re: Civic EX-L and Hybrid data [Car_man] by danny14
Jun 06, 2009 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (May 19, 2009 2:07 am)

Have the lease deal for the Hybrid(w Leather and Navi) changed for June and is the cash back still available? I assume that when I calculate the payment I apply the residual relative to MSRP - correct?
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Re: Tough One: GX Lease details [newyork4me] by Car_man HOST
Jun 09, 2009 (2:33 am)
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Replying to: newyork4me (Jun 03, 2009 11:13 am)

You're very welcome. Thanks for the explanation. You definitely would be the only person that I have heard of who has purchased a nat gas powered vehicle. It's definitely cool and a great conversation starter. Just don't take it on any long road trips .
 
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