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Honda Civic Lease Questions

832 messages,  Last post on Dec 03, 2009 at 10:20 PM

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Re: So confused,Still dont know anything about a good price [gmoses] by djhalptert
Oct 06, 2008 (8:24 pm)
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Replying to: gmoses (Oct 06, 2008 3:00 pm)

FYI, don't put any money down except your first monthly payment. If you make a right turn out of the dealership after putting down $1,000 and you are broadsided by a garbage truck, you will not be reimbursed for your down payment. Likewise if your car is stolen, you get nothing.
 
To answer your question yes, you should definitely worry about residual and money factor. Most dealers are upfront and honest about them but it's best to get multiple quotes. You can call and ask to talk to a salesman or even email and he will give you the numbers 99% of the time, no questions asked. READ MY LAST POST ABOUT HOW TO CALCULATE A LEASE PAYMENT TO FULLY APPRECIATE HOW IMPORTANT THESE NUMBERS ARE.
 
Get several quotes, in writing if necessary. Make sure they aren't adding in $1,000 worth of BS fees like window etching, paint sealant etc. They may give you the lowest sale price on the vehicle then add a couple of grand in bull crap fees to get their money back.
 
Also, normally the only difference between a 12,000 mile per year lease and a 15,000 mile per year lease is the residual will be lower on the higher mileage lease. FOR EXAMPLE: If you are getting 50% on the 12K the 15K will be 48% or so.
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October money factor by t_c
Oct 11, 2008 (9:04 am)
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why is honda's money factor so high? its about 6.5% when everyone else is like 2% lower.
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Re: 09 Civic advertised lease info details [Car_man] by jmcbmw
Oct 11, 2008 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Oct 06, 2008 4:15 pm)

Hey Car_Man, I am going to be leasing a 2009 Civic Sedan EX-L Navi Auto by the end of the month. Any changes to last months Honda Money Factor and residual? I plan to calculate using the Car Lease Calculator http://www.leaseguide.com/calc.htm once I have negotiated a selling price. I am looking for 36months with both 12K and 15K as I'm undecided. Also, any difference with the coupe or Hybrid? You never know. Thanks!
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Re: October money factor [t_c] by djhalptert
Oct 14, 2008 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: t_c (Oct 11, 2008 9:04 am)

why is honda's money factor so high? its about 6.5% when everyone else is like 2% lower.
 
The only logical explanation is that Honda obviously doesn't want a lease program. It is WAY smarter to buy a Honda vehicle due to Honda's inability to offer any lease support on their vehicles.
 
Don't be a fool. Buy them.
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Re: October money factor [djhalptert] by jmcbmw
Oct 15, 2008 (5:01 pm)
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Replying to: djhalptert (Oct 14, 2008 6:28 pm)

You know, many people lease for important reasons such as the large tax deductions for business use so calling them a fool is really quite unnecessary and unhelpful.
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Re: October money factor [jmcbmw] by djhalptert
Oct 15, 2008 (5:32 pm)
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Replying to: jmcbmw (Oct 15, 2008 5:01 pm)

I didn't say anyone who leases is a fool, rather I said anyone who leases a Honda is a fool. Leasing is great and can be financially smart when you are getting a lease rate of 0%-4%. The fact that Honda doesn't offer a rate of less than 6% on nearly any model when most other manufacturers are at 2-4% shows you which way to go. If you have a business and lease a Honda, you are wasting your money unnecessarily. If you think it's smart to lease a $20,000 Civic for $300-$350 a month I have some ocean front property in Baghdad I would like to sell you.
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Re: 09 Civic advertised lease info details [jmcbmw] by Car_man HOST
Oct 15, 2008 (5:42 pm)
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Replying to: jmcbmw (Oct 11, 2008 11:12 am)

Hey jmcbmw. Honda Finance's October buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 Honda Civic Sedan EX-L with navigation and 15,000 miles per year are .00290 and 60%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its "Super Preferred" credit tier and pay a security deposit at lease signing. The residual value for a lease with only 12,000 miles per year is 2% higher.
 
The money factor for an otherwise identical lease of an '09 Coupe and Hybrid are 58%.
 
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Re: 09 Civic advertised lease info details [Car_man] by jmcbmw
Oct 15, 2008 (9:12 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Oct 15, 2008 5:42 pm)

Thanks Car_man, That's too bad that the MF actually went up this month. I may have to try and hold off to see what Nov rates are but not sure if I can. The residual is fine and if I can get a really good deal (which may be hard with the Civic being so popular) I may pull the trigger. I also may have to start researching the Jetta and others which I prefer but my fiance does not!
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Re: 09 Civic advertised lease info details [jmcbmw] by Car_man HOST
Oct 16, 2008 (3:23 am)
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Replying to: jmcbmw (Oct 15, 2008 9:12 pm)

You're welcome, jmcbmw. Yep, Honda Finance raised its standard lease money factor for October (starting the 9th I believe). I am not completely surprised by this. The credit crunch is forcing a lot of banks, and that essentially is what Honda Finance is, to raise their unsupported rates. Both the Jetta and the Civic are good cars. You can't go wrong with either of them.
 
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Re: 09 Civic advertised lease info details [Car_man] by t_c
Oct 16, 2008 (6:17 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Oct 16, 2008 3:23 am)

Car_man,
 
But don't you think its kind of backwards as to what is really going on in the finance market? I mean the rates are going down that banks pay, but yet their raising their rates higher.....?
 
So really whats happening is that the Honda Fiance is making a wider yeild spread on their money. And this might be due to the fact that their sales are dropping so fast that they might need to profit in other areas...
 
Well I don't know. I'm still trying to decide if I should lease a Civic or Accord... what does everyone think? I mean from what I'm seeing its like a $20 a month difference for the Accord.

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