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Re: Good Leae Quote? [jlee8071] by Car_man HOST
Jul 16, 2009 (2:05 am)
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Replying to: jlee8071 (Jul 11, 2009 8:42 pm)

Hi Josh. The best way for me to evaluate this deal is to look at the selling price that it was based upon. The selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable, just as if you were paying cash for or financing them. Without this number, it is difficult to tell how large a dealer discount you are getting. Let us know what this car's selling price is and I'm sure that either myself or another knowledgeable community member will be happy to tell you what they think.
 
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Re: Was this deal a good one? [koftheworld] by Car_man HOST
Jul 16, 2009 (2:07 am)
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Replying to: koftheworld (Jul 14, 2009 6:17 pm)

Hey koftheworld. Congrats on getting your new Accord. It's a great value (I've leased a couple of them in the past myself). What is this car's selling price? It should list it on your lease contract. That number will help us to evaluate your deal.
 
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Honda lease help by ccosta
Jul 16, 2009 (5:12 am)
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I am looking to trade my 2003 ford explorer on a 10000 mile/yr (possibly 12000) 2 year lease for a Honda Accord LX-S 2dr.
Msrp 23,205 Invoice 21,044
   
Kbb puts my trade in value 6700 for "good" condition, which it is, and it is paid off. I want a just straight up trade (I know it is odd but it fits my unique situation perfectly). I have cash available that I would prefer not to use, but will If I see value.
 
I chose this model Accord because it seemed to fit the equal trade the closest based on the lease calculators I have been using. I am a using residual of 66% and not sure how/if the money factor is relevant.
 
I want to be aggressive in what in get in return for my trade, but even trade is almost ideal (ideally I would get cash back). How can I expect the dealer to view this? Am I in the right range as far as MSRP to meet my goal? Overall, how can I maximize the car I get in return for what I am offering?
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Re: Low EXL-V6 w/Nav residual [Car_man] by avalon2000
Jul 16, 2009 (2:08 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jul 16, 2009 2:03 am)

OK, at 3 yrs/15k, so a 2009 EXL-V6 w/Nav residual is 51%. Is the 2009 EXL-V4 w/Nav, what, 55%
 
Thanks!
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Accord lease by fmejia83
Jul 16, 2009 (6:15 pm)
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I'm being offered $384 a month for 36 months with $750 down to cover first month and inceptions for an 09 accord coupe 4cyl auto with nav. Selling price $24925 residual is 51% for 12k miles and money factor is .00171. Does this look like a good deal?
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Re: 09 Accord EX [jlee8071] by sleepysoo
Jul 17, 2009 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: jlee8071 (Jul 13, 2009 11:54 pm)

you know...if you don't need all that stuff, then i would go with the LX and then just get a separate security system. i mean, if it's not necessary, than you don't need to pay all that extra money for all those other things!
 
well, based on my calculations, you should be able to get somewhere around $237.42 on up. here are my assumptions to come to that number...remember, i don't know if these have changed for july or not...
 
money factor: .00207
Residual: 60%
12k miles/year
3 years
8.75% tax (OC tax rate)
 
Basically, the number i got up there is the invoice price minus the $1500 dealer incentive (they call it a marketing allowance). Without $1500 off, it's $286.11/month.
 
I hope they're still doing the $1500 dealer marketing allowance. if they are, and all the other numbers are correct, then you should be able to get something between the two numbers i mentioned above...just depends on how much you want the dealership to make!
 
oh yeah...this is with 0 down. probably need to make 1st month payment and doc fees. but, that number i posted above includes the destination fee. so, don't let them make you pay that up front. if they do, then the payments should be lower!
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Re: Low EXL-V6 w/Nav residual [avalon2000] by kingpcgeek
Jul 17, 2009 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: avalon2000 (Jul 16, 2009 2:08 pm)

Leasing a Honda with nav is a mistake. You wind up paying for all of the nav during the lease instead of just the depreciation part. Whenever a manufacturer list separate lease factors for non nav and nav versions of a car that is a red flag.
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Getting ripped off here? by avalon2000
Jul 17, 2009 (2:09 pm)
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A NYC Honda dealer just gave me the following quote today:
 
2009 Honda Accord 4-dr sdn 2.4 EX-L w/Nav & auto tran -- $29,315 sticker
 
Options:
back-up sensors -- $510 retail installed
fog lights - $280 retail installed
all weather mats - $142 retail
splash guards - $101 retail installed
color: optional, prefer white
 
Adjusted Sticker: $30,348
according to www.truecar.com, without above options, vehicle could be had for $24,500 in the NYC metro area. Add in a reasonable 50% cost of options retail cost, $517 + $24,500 = $25,017 true base cap, but, as seen below, dealer wants a calculated $26,785.
 
Sign & Drive Lease w/Honda Finance
36 mo./ 15k miles yr.
Tier 1 Credit
NYC sales tax 8.375%
Residual 51%
Money Factor .00195
$436 mo.
 
Based upon my Lease Calculator computations for dealer quoted prices, working backwards:
 
MSRP: 30348
Base Cap Cost: 26785 [dealer asked]
Costs Added to Lease: 195 [doc. fee]
Cap Cost Reductions 0.00
Adjusted Cap Cost: 26785
Residual Value: 15477 [51%]
Money factor: .00195
Term (months) 36
Sales Tax %: 8.375
 
Monthly Payment: $402.32 + $33.69 tax = $436.01
 
Depreciation: 11503
Finance (Rent) Charge: 2980
Total Sales Tax: 1213
Total of All Payments: 15696
Total Lease Cost: 15696
 
If Base Cap Cost is $25,017, as per my above calculation, then monthly lease payment becomes $379.05, tax incl. And this ASSUMES that the Residual value is correctly a low 51%, as this is the same as for the V-6.
 
ANY COMMENTS???
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Re: Was this deal a good one? [Car_man] by koftheworld
Jul 18, 2009 (1:34 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jul 16, 2009 2:07 am)

Thanks for the reply Car_man! Is the selling price the "agreed upon value of the vehicle" on the contract? If so it was $18,867.90.
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Re: Low EXL-V6 w/Nav residual [kingpcgeek] by avalon2000
Jul 18, 2009 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: kingpcgeek (Jul 17, 2009 9:23 am)

Being that I have already leased an Acura TL-S & two Honda EXL-V6's all with navigation, I have to say that the Honda unit [I think Alpine manufactured] is far superior than any of the add-on windshield types, and I've used almost all of them on other vehicles, and once hooked one up to one of the Hondas to see the difference, as it was very inferior. Also, the built-ins have dead reckoning whereby if you lose the satellite it automatically switches to the wheel spin to calculate your location, then self-correcting as needed once it picks up the satellite again.
 
If only someone would figure out how to get the portable units off the windshields and into some universal slip-in space in the dashboard wherein it would also hook into a built-in roof top GPS antenna, then I'd consider it.
 
Also, had OnStar in my 2003 TL-S, w/Nav as a separate factory built in. Have to say that OnStar is fabulous, worth every penny! Why Acura dropped it I'll never know. I now have it in my 2007 Saab 9-7X 5.3 SUV, and it is still wonderful, it now has turn-by-turn navigation, though I also have the factory built in nav anyway.

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