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should I buy my lease car - is it a good price by phxhonda
Nov 07, 2008 (7:04 pm)
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Here is the situation. I am currently leasing a 2007 Accord SE V-6. The lease will run out in January. I expect it will have around 20k miles when the lease ends.
 
The residual price is $16.9k. From what I have read Honda Financing won't negotiate on the residual price. Is this a good price for a 2 year old Accord?
 
I really don't like dealing with dealers, and really like this car. It handles great and I have kept it in very good condition. However I don't want to overpay for the vehicle. I have looked a KBB and a few other sites for pricing. I am interested in getting feedback from other posters on the price. Is $16.9 a reasonable price for a 2-year old V-6 accord?
 
thanks
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Re: Residual value on 36 months Lease ??? [Car_man] by spidy99
Nov 08, 2008 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Nov 07, 2008 4:17 am)

CAR MAN:
 
Is the residual value and money factor the same for an Accord Coupe (Nav, Auto). I was told by the dealer that the sedan and Coupe has different M.F. and residual value.
 
I was told that the residual value for a COUPE IS 55% for 36 monthe/12 K year...
Is this correct?
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Re: Residual value on 36 months Lease ??? [spidy99] by bvdj84
Nov 09, 2008 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: spidy99 (Nov 08, 2008 8:05 pm)

Let us know what deal you get, I would be curious to see how much more you are going to pay than the 09 TSX. I told the dealer, your quotes are going right into Acura territory. I have gotten several quotes, and they are seem more reasonable than the Accord. Now, if you want the coupe Accord, which a hot! I like that car too.
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negotiated cost or msrp? by choochbertucci
Nov 12, 2008 (4:54 pm)
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tonight i was at my local honda dealer (north jersey) looking to lease an `09 accord lx-p. i negotiated a cap cost that was 20,675 including destination charge. msrp is 23,275.
 
i asked him to run the numbers for a lease with no cap cost reductions to see what the monthly payment would be. now, when the salesperson returned with some lease numbers, he quoted a residual percentage at 62% and the residual figure at 14,305.
 
correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the residual figure based on the percentage of the negotiated cap cost (20,675)? if not, i don't see why one would negotiate a sales price if they are going to base the residual on the msrp. i've seen some conflicting information on some websites, one says that residual value is ALWAYS based on msrp, but that doesn't seem right.
 
also, i thought sales tax was based on the depreciation of the car, not the residual value. he was telling me that the taxes were based on the 14,305.
 
i'm sorry if i didn't give the right information to answer my question, but hopefully someone can answer. thanks.
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Re: negotiated cost or msrp? [choochbertucci] by kingpcgeek
Nov 13, 2008 (5:30 am)
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Replying to: choochbertucci (Nov 12, 2008 4:54 pm)

The residual is based on the MSRP. You negotiate a selling price because one factor of your lease payment is depreciation. Depreciation is the difference between the selling price and the residual value of the car at the end of the lease. So the lower the selling price of the car, the lower the depreciation (and interest).
 
Taxes on leases are calculated differently based on the state. In most states you pay sales tax based on the monthly payment, in other states you pay taxes on the total selling price of the car, I have never heard of taxes being charged on the residual value of the car. But I do think that NJ is one of the odd ball states with regards to taxes and leases.
 
Lease Payment Calculation Formula:
(Cap Cost – Residual Value) / Term = Depreciation
(Cap Cost + Residual Value) X Base Rate = Interest
Depreciation + Interest = Base Monthly Payment
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NJ sales tax on leases by kyfdx HOST
Nov 13, 2008 (7:42 am)
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I'm pretty sure it's based on the total payments, but then paid upfront or added to the cap cost...
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Re: 09 Accord LX-P Lease Deal [srq5363] by Car_man HOST
Nov 13, 2008 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: srq5363 (Nov 07, 2008 6:37 pm)

Hi srq5363. Honda Finance's current buy rate lease money factor for the 2009 Accord is .00184, which is equivalent to an interest rate of around 4.4%. I don't know what the dealer who told you about the 1.9% was talking about, but they're wrong.
 
Negotiate as low a selling price as possible on the car that you want and then have the dealer calculate your monthly payment using the aforementioned lease money factor. If I was in the market for an '09 Accord right now, I personally would shoot for a selling price of dealer invoice. You can look up this car's invoice price over in the New Vehicle Pricing section of Edmunds.com.
 
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Re: Residual value on 36 months Lease ??? [spidy99] by Car_man HOST
Nov 13, 2008 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: spidy99 (Nov 08, 2008 8:05 pm)

Hi spidy99. If I am not mistaken, the Accord Sedan and Coupe have the same money factor right now, .00184 (for consumers who qualify for its "Super Preferred" credit tier and pay a security deposit at lease signing).
 
Honda Finance's residual values vary by trim level. You never fully described the car that you're interested in, so for now I will assume that you want an '09 Accord Coupe EX-L with nav, The 36 month, 12,000 mile per year residual value for this car is 57%. The resid for an otherwise identical lease of an EX-L V6 w/nav is 55%.
 
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Re: Residual value on 36 months Lease ??? [Car_man] by bvdj84
Nov 14, 2008 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Nov 13, 2008 6:34 pm)

Car_man,
 
 Does it look more attractive to lease an 09 Accord or 09 Acura TSX?
 
Please let me know, I am favoring the TSX. But, the Accord would be great too.
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by gab2409
Nov 15, 2008 (3:30 pm)
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I hope car_man will shed his opinion on the matter, as I have looked extensively at the two cars (TSX base and accord coupe ex-l 4 cylinder). from the quotes I received, I think I can get out cheaper on a base TSX. I think that is going to be the way to go for me.

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