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Re: I want the Fusion [Car_man] by mi_sat
Oct 06, 2005 (5:06 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Oct 05, 2005 2:57 am)

Interested in knowing interest rates and residuals on the Milan, as follows:
 
Two-year:
(a) 15,000 miles
(b) 17,000 miles (or nearest mileage)
 
Three-year:
(a) 15,000 miles
(b) 17,000 miles (or nearest mileage)
 
Anyone with that info? I'm in metro Detroit area. Thanks
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Re: I want the Fusion [Car_man] by jpmiller99
Oct 06, 2005 (7:21 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Oct 05, 2005 2:57 am)

Thanks Car_Man. Already the deal sounds OK. I'm waiting for it to get better. High oil prices, uncertainty over inflation, the need to run the plants, and the saturation of demand from the "family plan" discounts, will all conspire to drive up incentives, as you suspect.
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Re: I want the Fusion [mi_sat] by mi_sat
Oct 07, 2005 (5:14 pm)
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Replying to: mi_sat (Oct 06, 2005 5:06 pm)

I get to answer my own question. Thought everyone else would like to know what I found out.
 
Two years, 15k miles: 57% residual, 2.5%
Three years, 15k miles: 49%, 2.75%
 
Rates/residuals courtesy of my local mercury dealer.
 
Now if I could only calculate the same lease payment my dealer did. His calc is $18/month higher than mine, which means he is padding the costs with something. I buy A-plan, and he and I agreed on MSRP and A-plan price; he provided residual and interest rate. Yet, we're still different by $18/month. (Shock: His payment is higher than my calculation.)
 
I always insist on the same lease calculation payment before buying to ensure no padding of costs. A-plan doesn't allow doc prep fees, etc., so it must be something like rustproofing.
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Re: I want the Fusion [mi_sat] by jpmiller99
Oct 07, 2005 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: mi_sat (Oct 07, 2005 5:14 pm)

Ask him to go over the payment detail with, including CAP Cap, Residual, Money Factor. There is usally a lease aquisition fee, and maybe he included taxes, but you didn't?
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Re: I want the Fusion [jpmiller99] by jpmiller99
Oct 07, 2005 (5:38 pm)
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Replying to: jpmiller99 (Oct 07, 2005 5:36 pm)

I may be out of the running on a Fusion. A 3 yr residual of 49% stinks. Unless the rebates bump up and the money factor goes down, I may be visiting my local Honda dealer for an accord with a 57% 3 year 15K mile residual.
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Re: I want the Fusion [jpmiller99] by mi_sat
Oct 08, 2005 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: jpmiller99 (Oct 07, 2005 5:36 pm)

Good thoughts. I did include taxes, as did he. I have never paid a lease acquisition fee before, as evidenced by the fact that I have always been able to calculate the lease payment down to the penny. I am not certain that such a fee is allowed under A-plan. I guess I won't lease until I'm comfortable with the payments.
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Re: I want the Fusion [jpmiller99] by mi_sat
Oct 08, 2005 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: jpmiller99 (Oct 07, 2005 5:38 pm)

Last I checked on an Accord, the money factor translated into a 6.1% interest rate.
 
I ran the payments on a fully loaded Milan at the Accord's 57% residual and 6.1% interest rate to see what impact it had. The payment was only $4/month less when using the Accord's assumptions on the Milan. Bottom line was that the Accord's residual lowered the payment while its interest rate increased it. Net net was close to a wash.
 
My Milan assumptions (fully loaded -- cannot get any more factory installed options): MSRP $26,290; A-Plan $23,360; Rate: 2.75%; Residual: 49%; Rebate: $1,000 (this is the present offering). Resulting payment was $322/month for 36 months (incl 6% sales tax).
 
This comparison isn't to determine which vehicle is better. Rather, just to illustrate the impact of all the assuptions going into the lease payment. Hope this helps with your decision.
 
One more point: Fusion residual may differ; I was interested in a Milan.
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Re: I want the Fusion [mi_sat] by jpmiller99
Oct 08, 2005 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: mi_sat (Oct 08, 2005 6:23 am)

Thanks for your reply. I can always wait for special interest on the Accord or the Passat. Unfortunately, I doubt that the Fusion residual is going up anytime time.
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Re: Re: I want the Fusion by Car_man HOST
Oct 09, 2005 (5:33 am)
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You're welcome jpmiller99. Smaller cars seem to be selling fairly well right now because of the high gas prices. In fact a number of manufacturers actually cut back on their incentives on small cars a little bit this month. Ford cut back on its 2006 Focus support a little bit in October. Eventually though Ford will probably have to sweeten its offers on the Fusion as you suspect.
 
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Re: mi_sat by Car_man HOST
Oct 09, 2005 (6:02 am)
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Mi_sat, Honda has a new special lease program on the 2006 Accord (it introduced it in late September). So if that is a car that you are considering you may want to reevaluate what its lease payment will be like. It now may be less expensive to lease than the Milan.
 
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