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Cadillac CTS Lease Questions

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Re: GM Sucks. [sam_k] by wvgasguy
May 11, 2009 (6:06 pm)
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Replying to: sam_k (May 11, 2009 2:39 pm)

That's basically what I told him. I repeated to the Manager, what is the money factor? He replied it is a 24% interest rate. He didn't bat an eye. I told the second dealer I called that I would have a hard time telling anyone that with a straight face.
 
There is lease support though. They told me no, there was no offers. I said I just got off of the GM Supplier site at work and they listed incentives. He said no, I pointed to the paper I had with the GM supplier price of the car on their lot and told him in addition to the almost $3K off, there was $7000 of lease incentive. He went back into the room and brought out a bunch of papers. Oh, he said that's for people with a lease. I said no, that's just a lease incentive. I also have a leased vehicle with a end date before 10/31 so that offer is an additional $2K. He shuffled the papers more and found that. Then I said it appears there is a $1K Bonus cash for the GM Supplier people. He found all that and I figured I nailed this one.
 
So I said, now that we have that, my questions were about the residual and the lease factor. That's when he came back with the 24% interest rate. So I repeated myself knowing GM was given tax bailout money to open up their stores, so surely they wouldn't try to rip us off.
 
I've only leased once. I do see thought that the support is available even if you use a source for the lease other then GM. I assume in some areas Banks do that?
 
In January they had a $5K or $7K similar offer on a purchase for people with leases ending XX 2009. I didn't hit that window or I would have bought one then.
 
I've probably stopped in for the last time as I've tried to deal several times over the years on a Cadillac and never came close to the deals I was able to make with the Toyota's and Ford dealerships.
 
I guess there are enough people that won't drive anything but a Cadillac that they see no need to get new customers and continue to mess over the existing ones.
 
Seems like a business model that would put you out of business. Oh wait, it is putting them out of business.
 
If they recover it will be from Obama giving them my taxes (and my kids and grandkids taxes), not from me purchasing a vehicle.
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May 09 MF and Residuals by couchman57
May 14, 2009 (11:43 am)
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OK Carman, is the $7k lease incentive offset by crazy MF and low residuals??
 
Can you supply the latest MF and residuals?
 
I was interested in heading to Cadillac dealer but this type of information may push me back to BMW or Acura....
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Re: May 09 MF and Residuals [couchman57] by Car_man HOST
May 15, 2009 (2:25 am)
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Replying to: couchman57 (May 14, 2009 11:43 am)

Hi couchman57. GMAC is no longer leasing vehicles, so in order to lease a CTS one would have to do so through an independent bank. I don't personally keep tabs on the money factors and residual values that independent banks are offering, but I would be shocked if the money factors that are out there really were equivalent to an interest rate of 24%. It sounds like the dealer who said that just doesn't want anyone to lease this car for some reason, or doesn't know what he's talking about. I don't even think that banks are allowed to charge consumers interest rates that are that high on auto loans and leases.
 
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Re: May 09 MF and Residuals [Car_man] by wvgasguy
May 16, 2009 (5:29 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (May 15, 2009 2:25 am)

The dealership in Clarksburg WV quoted me the rate. I figured it was BS so I went home and called the dealership in Fairmont. Without me telling him what was said in Clarksburg he quoted me 24%. At least when I asked him how they could say that with a straight face, he sounded appologetic. It disturbed him as well. I could tell he was embarrased. He did mention his dealership was trying to work out something locally with a financial organization. He mentioned a dealership in PA he had talked with had something going but without GM.
 
The discounts are available for a lease, even if GM is not doing the lease according to the website. I just don't see why GM would offer all this money and then turn around and offer a rate no one in their right mind would accept. I would simply say we were not leasing.
 
When the first dealer told me this, face to face, I asked why would anyone lease a cadillac. He responded some people just have to lease. And I said well I wouldn't think it would be a Cadillac. I walked out.
 
Bob Trickett Cadillac, Clarksburg WV
Anthony Cadillac, Fairmont WV
 
In all fairness to them, I don't see this as their fault. At least though Anthony showed some sort of embarassment.
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CTS lease by mixen
May 21, 2009 (9:35 am)
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There is a dealer on Long Island that is advertising a 60-month lease for the RWD CTS with auto for $289 per month. They want $2995 down plus bank fee plus first month's payment, plus tax. I figure that comes to about $6179 down, but I have $1000 GM points and a $500 special offer. So, it would be $4679 down and $289 per month. If you amortize the $4679 over the course of 60 months, that means that the actual monthly payment of $289 is around $367 per month. All in all, not a bad deal for a CTS, albeit the base model.
 
I have dealt with this dealer in the past and this is not a gimmick. However, it applies to only the advertised car, and if they have another car in stock with the same option, but a different color, then the monthly price jumps $100+. I just don't understand why they would be willing to lease one car at that price but not another similarly equipped car. Any thoughts?
 
Also, based on what I have seen in the postings above, GMAC lease factor is off the charts. However, does anyone know what a private bank would charge and does anyone know if the $7000 rebate (and other rebates) apply in a lease situation where you use an outside lender.
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Re: CTS lease [mixen] by wvgasguy
May 22, 2009 (5:19 pm)
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Replying to: mixen (May 21, 2009 9:35 am)

What I have read and what I was told is that the $7000 is good regardless of who finances the lease for you.
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Re: CTS lease [mixen] by rackerman
May 25, 2009 (2:15 pm)
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Replying to: mixen (May 21, 2009 9:35 am)

that seem like a great lease deal... can you disclose which dealership is offering that deal...i am in the market for lease a '09 CTS...i live in Miami and my local dealership is offering $439/mnth, plus sales tax and $1998 down for a new CTS(basic model).
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Lease Rebate Confusion by hoss411
May 25, 2009 (5:42 pm)
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I'm considering leasing a CTS through US Bank. Edmunds currently lists 5 different rebates and I'm trying to figure out which ones I'm eligible for. I've asked a couple of dealers and I think they are either misleading me or they are absolutely clueless...
 
I currently lease an Infiniti and must turn it in on 9/20. I qualify for GMS employee pricing.
 
I know I get the $7000 rebate. I also believe I qualify for the additional $2000 rebate since I'm currently in a lease that ends before 10/31. Two dealers have told me "NO" to that - I only get up to $7000 total rebate. My gut tells me this is bogus, but I really don't know...
 
As for the other three rebates... I know I don't qualify for the $1000 owner loyalty rebate, but there is still a $1000 GM Bonus Cash and $1500 Customer Cash rebate. Perhaps these are only for a purchase though??
 
Any help is appreciated!
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Re: Lease Rebate Confusion [hoss411] by rackerman
May 26, 2009 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: hoss411 (May 25, 2009 5:42 pm)

I agree with you....very confusing...I tried to nego a lease on a CTS over the weekend (Miami, Florida) and they told me I am "only" eligible for the $7k rebate. I am currently leasing a CTS and it expired on May 19, 2009...on a month-to month lease.
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Re: Lease Rebate Confusion [hoss411] by rackerman
May 26, 2009 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: hoss411 (May 25, 2009 5:42 pm)

I agree with you....very confusing...I tried to nego a lease on a CTS over the weekend (Miami, Florida) and they told me I am "only" eligible for the $7k rebate. I am currently leasing a CTS and it expired on May 19, 2009...on a month-to month lease.

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