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z4 certified opportunity by kperess
Mar 06, 2008 (4:08 pm)
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I have a line on an '06 Z4 coupe (certified) with 10,000 miles on it. The dealer sued it as a loaner. Has premium and sport packages, auto tranny with flippers. Dealer is asking $29,900. Was put into service on Jan 2 '07.
 
Any thoughts on this? I live in the upper peninsula of Michigan (so lots of snow) and am also looking at the TT as a possible toy.
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Re: Question(s) for Car Man - Re Current Z-4 lease offer> [mbn1941] by erdoran
Mar 06, 2008 (4:30 pm)
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Replying to: mbn1941 (Mar 05, 2008 6:57 pm)

mbn1941, that sounds bogus to me, although I'm just a consumer and have no inside knowledge! If a dealer is "required" to discount $2500, there is no reason they can't CHOOSE to discount further. Check out the invoice pricing on edmunds.com. From 3/1-4/30/08 there is $2500 factory to dealer incentive on the z4i and $3000 on the z4si. I think what is happening is that they are pricing it at MSRP and giving you this "trunk money" as it is called. I don't see anything in your post that says the dealer has to SUBSIDIZE or CONTRIBUTE to the lease!
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2008 Z4 3.0 si Coupe by stef929rr
Mar 10, 2008 (7:21 pm)
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Hi.
 
I am interested in leasing a 2008 BMW Z4 3.0 si coupe. Could you please tell me the residual value and the money factor on this car? I am looking at a 36 month lease.
 
I live in the NYC area and was quoted $41,200 with an MSRP of $45375. What would be my lease payments without a cap cost reduction? I am looking to include taxes in my monthly payments. Thanks.
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Re: Current Z-4 lease offer by dk90210
Mar 16, 2008 (9:16 pm)
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Replying to: erdoran (Mar 06, 2008 4:30 pm)

Hello all. I am very much interested in the current BMW Z4 Lease Special (36 months $369 w/ $2500 down) but I have a few questions:
 
1) How do they arrive at those numbers? What is the negotiated cost? Residual? Money Factor?
 
2) I have seen similar specials at my local dealers here in Southern California that play on this lease special, including 39 months $399 w/ $3000 drive-off, and even 36 months $459 w/ $0 drive off! Of these, which way would be better - Less drive-off and more monthly, or vice versa?
 
3) How much more would/should I pay if I wanted to extend the lease to 12K miles per year? 15K miles?
 
By the way, the special can be found here at http://www.edmunds.com/new/2008/bmw/z4/100954196/incentives.html
 
Thanks for your help!!!
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Z4 si Lease offer by sulimios
Mar 23, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Hey Car man:
 
Went to the BMW dealer yesterday to try out the Z4si. Nice, not sure I like it as much as the '05 2.0T TT that I had, but it was pretty nice and I was hoping to get a decent lease deal.
 
Already having done the research, I knew what the current residuals and rates were as well as the $3k factory to dealer incentive. This was their first offer for 2yr 10k miles per year--gave me the $3k off the MSRP and then an additional $1325 which came out to a selling price of $42,800. After doc fee and Acquisition fee (what is this?), the cap cost was $43,470. Calculating $2500 down, they had the residual at .74 and the rate at .0022 they came out with a payment of $519.95.
 
I had gone in there using the Edmunds TMV value which for my area (upstate ny) was $200 under invoice. After taking into account the $3000 and taxes, and the various fees, I came out around $331/month.
 
I guess my question is about where should I come out?? I mean, I realize that was their 1st offer and they will come down, but can I expect them to come down to $331/month?
 
My other questions have to do w/ these various fees: Doc Fee = $45; Acquisition Fee = $625; Security Deposit = $550; Upfront fees = $170
 
Are these actual fees to the dealership or is this just another area where they're making a profit?! I appreciate your wise words of wisdom car man!! Thanks.
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oops by sulimios
Mar 23, 2008 (11:25 am)
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forgot, the MSRP was $47,125
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Re: oops [sulimios] by sulimios
Apr 02, 2008 (5:55 am)
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Replying to: sulimios (Mar 23, 2008 11:25 am)

hey carman...just checking in to see if what you think!?! about my posts on 3/23
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Re: 2008 Z4 3.0 si Coupe [stef929rr] by Car_man HOST
Apr 03, 2008 (2:36 am)
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Replying to: stef929rr (Mar 10, 2008 7:21 pm)

Hi stef929rr. According to the latest information that I have seen, BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2008 BMW Z4 3.0si Coupe with 15,000 miles per year are .00210 and 52%, respectively. The residual value for a lease with only 12,000 miles per year would be 2% higher. When negotiating your lease on this car, make sure to take the $3,000 dealer cash that BMW is currently providing on it into account.
 
Using the prices that you mentioned in your post, an MSRP of $45,375 and a selling price of $41,200, and the aforementioned lease program, I come up with a zero down, pre-tax monthly payment of around $602 (with 12,000 miles per year).
 
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Re: Current Z-4 lease offer [dk90210] by Car_man HOST
Apr 03, 2008 (3:27 am)
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Replying to: dk90210 (Mar 16, 2008 9:16 pm)

Hi dk90210. I am not sure of the exact selling price that BMW used to arrive at its advertised lease payment for the Z4, but whatever it is I suspect that you will be able to beat it. Manufacturers' advertised lease payments usually leave a little meat on the bone so to speak. It makes sense if one thinks about it. Dealers would be pretty annoyed if they advertised the best possible deals on cars or trucks. Given the fact that you are in the ultra competitive Southern California market and that BMW is providing $2,500 dealer cash on the 2008 Z4 3.0i roadster, you probably will be able to negotiate a selling price that's well below dealer invoice.
 
As far as the other parameters of the advertised lease go, BMW used a money factor of .00220 and a residual value of 64% to arrive at that payment. If you were to lease with 15,000 miles per year instead of 10,000, this car's residual value would be 3% lower.
 
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Re: Z4 si Lease offer [sulimios] by Car_man HOST
Apr 04, 2008 (1:18 am)
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Replying to: sulimios (Mar 23, 2008 11:23 am)

Hey sulimios. The money factor that you were quoted is right in line with this car's current buy rate. That is a good thing. Let's take a look at the selling price. The Z4 that you are interested in probably has a spread of around $3,500 between its full MSRP and its dealer invoice price. It is good that the dealer that you are working with is giving you the entire dealer cash allowance, but if I was in the market for this car I personally would want a larger dealer discount than $1,325. Make sure to stop by the "BMW Z4 Prices Paid and Buying Experience" discussion to see how much other community members have paid for similar cars lately.
 
The fees that you were quoted seem reasonable to me. A doc fee of $45 is very low compared to what many other dealers charge. BMW Financial Services charges a $625 acquisition fee on every vehicle that it leases. Individual dealers cannot waive this charge. In fact, many dealers try to mark it up to add additional, hidden profit to deals, but your dealer is not. BMW FS' charges the security deposit as well. I don't know what the other $170 for "upfront fees" is but if it covers things like registration, etc... then it is probably legit.
 
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