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BMW X5 Lease Questions

1117 messages,  Last post on Dec 06, 2009 at 9:09 PM

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What is this discussion about? BMW X5, Car Leasing, SUV


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Re: tpjcourtney [Car_man] by thetaxman
Oct 04, 2005 (5:11 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Oct 04, 2005 3:12 am)

Hello Car_man. I can confirm the .00100 money factor for the October program on the 2006 X-5 (not that you needed me to...), but I am trying to determine the appropriate residual for a 15K lease. They cited me 57%, but I have seen 62% for 10k and 60% for 12k - so by extrapolation I surmise 57% is correct. Of more concern - why are they trying to charge me $250 for the title and $149 more for the plates? Shouldn't this be more like $110 in total? I am not trusting them here...
In any case, for additional info for others, with $2,500 due on signing they want $660 per month (NJ Taxes included) for a 3.0 with a list price of $51,970. I compute that the dealer is still making over $2,500 on the vehicle so the monthly payment can still come down a bit...
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October X5 lease deal on BMW's web site by drtravel
Oct 04, 2005 (9:19 am)
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MSRP of $44,470
Cap cost of $41,970 (Full MSRP less $2,500 down)
MF of 0.0010
Residual $26,682 (60%)
 
Payment comes out to $493.32 + tax
 
To get their $499 number you have to use a Cap cost of $42,170 which means they are charging you $200 over MSRP!
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Re: October X5 lease deal on BMW's web site [drtravel] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 04, 2005 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: drtravel (Oct 04, 2005 9:19 am)

Don't forget the $625 acquisition fee.... that is usually included in the cap cost on BMW's advertised leases...
 
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kyfdx
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Re: October X5 lease deal on BMW's web site [kyfdx] by bdr127
Oct 04, 2005 (12:34 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 04, 2005 11:36 am)

And does BMW's advertisements use the MF buy rates? I would think ads from any manufacturer would have some finance profit built in....
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Re: October X5 lease deal on BMW's web site [bdr127] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 04, 2005 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: bdr127 (Oct 04, 2005 12:34 pm)

Just in my personal experience.. the national ads, like the one on the website, use the buy rate..
 
My local dealer changes the numbers, even when they use a copy of the national ad in the local paper.... with the money factors marked up..
 
Of course, they don't advertise the money factor in either of the ads, but the ads in the local paper have monthly payments about $20-$30/mo. higher than the example on the website, for the exact same model..
 
Additionally, most of the BMW national lease ads assume about a $1000 discount from MSRP, taking into account any dealer incentives... That leaves plenty of profit for the dealer at the advertised deal.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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October X5 Lease Question by bmwshopper1
Oct 05, 2005 (6:34 pm)
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What is a good target price for 2006 3.0 X5, automatic, prem. pkg, and rear climate? If I am a current BMW FS customer, purchased 2 years ago, what money factor should I be getting? I was told by a dealer that it is .0012 and that only current "lease" customers can get the .0010 Is this true? I have good credit. I'm assuming I should get the security deposit waived as well. Lease is 10K/yr and residual 60%. Thanks.
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Re: Re: tpjcourtney by Car_man HOST
Oct 06, 2005 (5:56 am)
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Hello thetaxman. The 57% residual value that you were quoted for a 36 month, 15,000 miles per year lease of a 2006 BMW X5 is correct. I am not sure how much your state charges for title and plates so I cannot help you out with that aspect of this deal.
 
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Re: October X5 Lease Question by Car_man HOST
Oct 06, 2005 (6:03 am)
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Hello bmwshopper1. I would be happy to give you an idea of how much it should cost to lease the truck that you are interested in. However, in order for me to do so I need you to provide me with its full MSRP (with the destination charge added in). It would be helpful if you were able to provide me with an approximate selling price for this truck as well, but not completely necessary because we can always just assume $500 or $1,000 off of MSRP for the purpose of calculating a lease payment. If you were to lease a 2006 BMW X5 through BMW FS right now for 3 years, its buy rate lease money factor should be .00100 with the payment of a security deposit and BMW FS' acquisition fee.
 
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schutzhund1 by schutzhund1
Oct 06, 2005 (10:18 pm)
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Buyer beware...while using all the intelligence I have gained and can remember from this site, I have tried to talk to BMW dealers. Before I started asking questions and or quoting information about MSRP and Money Factors, actual leases etc, the dealers talked with me freely. Once I started using this information I can't get anyone to talk to me. It is like they were looking for people that had more money than brains........just food for thought is all....I will let you know when and if I buy my X5 4.4i.........
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Re: October X5 lease deal on BMW's web site [kyfdx] by cartalk1
Oct 07, 2005 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 04, 2005 12:38 pm)

Is there one, consistent place to go (web site) to find "current" lease residuals and MF's. It seems that finding the current rates(from manufacturers and/or their financial subsidiaries) on forums like this is "hit and miss" which is OK, but it would be a lot more expedient if we could go to one place to view the latest rates. Since they are regularly posted on different forums, obviously the secret is out, so what's the big deal to just having them posted somewhere? That would be a significant service to shoppers like myself.

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