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BMW X5, Car Leasing, SUV
#2050 of 2372 Re: X5 Premium lease - help [ab10000]
Sep 15, 2012 (5:12 am)
My thoughts are that you are the one that's unsophisticated at best. At worst ______ fill in the blank.
One second faster 0-60 is a big deal for you. OK, I understand. But if you want to drag race an X5 between stoplights, be aware that the 3.5i 6 cylinder gas engine from a 3 series is not exactly going to be taking many checkered flags from the V8 X5 5.0 or Cayenne S. The fact is that an X5d from 40-80 is equal to or quicker than the gas model, which is where highway acceleration matters to me. Getting 29.4 mpg on my 510 mile trip home from the factory was nice icing on that cake. As for why diesel is 15 cents more than premium in California, take it up with your elected socialists. It's priced slightly above mid grade here, about 10 cents a gallon less than premium at the Shell station I stopped at. Once. Still on the second tank.
I certainly think the 3.5i has a nice feel off the line, but the X5d is hardly "unresponsive". 35 less horsepower but 125 more ft. lb of torque is a pretty good SUV trade off in my opinion. Having owned a 911S for five years, my next higher horsepower, lower torque car is likely to be another 911, Cayman S or M3 - not a 5,000+ pound SUV.
My guess is that you've never actually driven the vehicle. Certainly never witnessed first hand a BMW instructor take an X5d around a track at speeds you likely couldn't match in a M3, let alone X5 3.5i. But that's also fine. The fact that BMW has to offer a $4,500 discount to overcome an unsophisticated public in the U.S. is great for those of us on the buying side.
FWIW, the biggest gripe of the BMW professional driving instructors I heard at the Performance Delivery Center last week had nothing to do with "unsophisticated" diesels, but the fact that BMW is being forced to go to turbo's to meet EPA mandates. You say you like the sound of the 3.5i engine. Well absolutely NONE of them want to see or hear a variant of that replace the natural free revving V8 in the M3, which is what is happening in 2013/4.
Maybe you can print this article out and take it to the throne to improve your own sophistication as to the future of BMW diesels: M Diesel
#2051 of 2372 Re: X5 Premium lease - help [habitat1]
Sep 15, 2012 (7:43 am)
Couldn't say it better myself. I was skeptical of the diesel even when I signed the paperwork, but this car continues to blow my mind in it's capabilities.
Drive the truck for an extended period of time, get almost 600 miles out of a tank a gas, and try to tell me this vehicle is for unsophisticated buyers.
I've had luxury cars for many many years and this is the most satisfied I've ever been with respect for value and performance.
#2052 of 2372 whats a fair lease price?
Sep 16, 2012 (8:00 am)
I'm looking at leasing a 2013 BMW X5 premium with convince package and was wondering if anyone could share the terms of their lease or what they think would be a fair down and monthly payment so i can know how hard to push in negotiating.
Thank you in advance
#2053 of 2372 CARMAN, where are you?
Sep 17, 2012 (8:27 pm)
I posted a few days back about a lease I was presented with. Your comments would be most helpful. Thanks.
#2054 of 2372 Loyalty Cash Question
Sep 19, 2012 (10:42 am)
I have a question about loyalty cash and a lease. If the dealer says it is willing to sell the car at invoice, is it reasonable to expect them to deduct an extra $750 for the BMW loyalty cash which is currently being advertised? I am being told they are willing to sell a 2013 BMW X5 50i at invoice, but when I inquired on loyalty cash, I was told that the price offered already took the loyalty cash into account. Thanks, again, for your assistance!
Sep 19, 2012 (11:17 am)
Just got my friend a deal on this X5 . Thought it was pretty amazing!
MSRP - $78,045 (Nappa Leather, M Performance Package, M Sport Package, 20" Wheels, Premium Package, Premium Sound, Technology Package, Luxury Package)
Selling price - $70,681
BMW Drive USA Credit - $1,000
BMW Loyalty Credit - $750
USAA Member Credit $1,000
App. Credit - $500
Final selling price - $67,431
Money Factor - .00145
Residual for 12,000 per year - 61%
Total due at signing - $3,656.72 (1st month payment $717.46, Bank fee $725, Taxes $1,963.76, Transfer plates $153, Doc Fee $75, NYS Insp. $10, NYS Tire Fee $12.50)
Monthly payment - $717.46 for 36 months.
CARMAN - What do you think? Good Deal??
#2056 of 2372 Re: 2013 X5 xDrive50i [insidecarbuy]
Sep 19, 2012 (12:10 pm)
That looks like an outstanding deal to me. Can you provide any further details on how the dealer was able to do this since it looks like the selling price before all of the credits was a few thousand dollars below invoice? I am looking at a 2013 X5 xDrive50i as well, but its MSRP is several thousand dollars less than the vehicle you described. Any additional information you could provide would be helpful. Thank you.
#2057 of 2372 Re: 2013 X5 xDrive50i [nd_irish]
Sep 19, 2012 (4:50 pm)
I shop very thoroughly and know what I'm doing! Its about $1,600 behind invoice. Invoice on that car is about $72,181.00
#2058 of 2372 Re: 2013 X5 xDrive50i [insidecarbuy]
Sep 19, 2012 (5:21 pm)
Based on the deal you got, I have no doubt you know what you are doing. Would you care to share any tips with the rest of us on the forum? What I have read here is that if you can get a selling price of invoice before other available credits, you are getting a good deal.
#2059 of 2372 Re: 2013 X5 xDrive50i [nd_irish]
Sep 19, 2012 (6:06 pm)
Find the desperate salesman! Sometimes I'll talk to 2 or 3 different salesman at the same dealership to see who really needs the business for the month. Someone who is trying to hit a bonus for the month and doesnt care about taking a mini commission and will work on your side to make the Manager see you can get the deal elsewhere and something is better than nothing!
Hope this helps - its one of my tricks!