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#2046 of 2262 X5 Premium lease - help
Sep 13, 2012 (7:27 pm)
PLease tell me if this is a good deal? I have been offered the following deal on a 36 mo 15,000 lease on an 2013 X5 premium.
Cold Weather Package
Comfort access (included / no charge)
Soft-close automatic doors (included / no charge)
Navigation system (included / no charge)
Satellite radio w/1 yr sub
Money Factor is .00145
residual is 57% for 15,000miles per year
capital cost is $57,420
adjusted cap cost is $55,170
rebate cap reduction $2,250 (BMW Drive for Olympics $1,000; Iphone app $500, loyalty $750)
$750.28 including Sales Tax plus fees
Total Due at Delivery:
COD of $1,792 equals the sum of first payment, acquisition fee of $725, sales tax on rebate CR, documentation of $75, $20 tire fee and inspection.
Carman: please respond asap. Thanks so much!
#2047 of 2262 Re: X5 Premium lease - help [snow26]
Sep 14, 2012 (4:21 am)
Mind if I ask you a question as to what factors have caused you to decide on an X5 3.5i as opposed to the X5d? I can guess that it might be slightly quicker off the line acceleration and maybe the fact that it's a relatively short term lease, but I'd like to hear from you.
Over on another forum regarding diesels Diesel forum I made a statement that for me personally, I couldn't see why the X5d doesn't win out over the X5 3.5i for almost anybody. With the added $4,500 eco-credit, even though it stickers at about $2,500-3,000 more than the gas version, the net price (or capital cost) is about $1,500-2,000 less. The fuel cost savings over 3 years and 45,000 miles would, by my rough calculations be another $2,000 or $50-60 per month (18-20 average vs. 23-25 average). And, except for dead start 0-30 acceleration, the 30+ mph and highway passing acceleration with the V8 like torque is as strong or stronger than the gas model. My 510 mile drive back from picking up the vehicle last week reinforced my decision - 29.4 mpg at 60-80 mph (varied for break in) and complete ease going up and down the hills through the Shenandoah's compared to our old MDX. Obviously though, a ton of X5 buyers think differently than me, since the diesel still is well less than half of the X5 sales, and you are in the majority.
Diesel or gas, one thing I would strongly recommend you consider is ordering the X5 to your exact specs and picking it up at the Performance Delivery Center if that fits your geography and schedule. The experience I had on the track and on their off road course at the hands of professional instructors will make the next 200,000 miles even more enjoyable. Really makes you appreciate how well made and dynamically balanced the X5s (and M3s) are
#2048 of 2262 Re: X5 Premium lease - help [habitat1]
Sep 14, 2012 (5:56 am)
Simple, I liked the engine better and also didn't like the sound of the diesel.
#2049 of 2262 Re: X5 Premium lease - help [habitat1]
Sep 14, 2012 (7:25 pm)
Diesel is for unsofisticated buyers who thinks they are etting a deal "4500 Eco BS"
1- Diesel is slower and sluggish and less responsive than the x5 3.5 gas
2- The Msrp savings are about 1000 only when comparing same options
3- You get the old 6 speed transmission, no 8 speed which is in x5 3.5 gas. No one will tell you that. Therefore your are getting a lower price on the car
4- In California diesel is 15 cents more expensive than premium gas and the spread will be wider overtime. Oil companies have to account for cannbilzation, therefor they have to raise the price of diesel to of set the efficiency of the engine. Otherwise they will sell less gallons of fuel which means less profit
5- the diesel car is heavier which means it stops slower and handels inferior to the x5 gas
6- the sound of engine is ugly compared to the amazing BMW gas engine
7- all BMW salespeople and many members of this forum who are affiliated with BMW want to push the diesel product, because is not desirable and they make more money on it.
8- the tourqe story is exaggerated and used for marketing. This is for towing uphill, what is the point if the car is powerful but not as responsive as gas. Still gas is more than 1 second faster to 60 with less tourqe.
So for all the above I find it really difficult to understand why people buy it, other than they have cheap mentality, they think they are saving but at the expense of all the above. It is not worth it for me. Let me know your thoughts.
#2050 of 2262 Re: X5 Premium lease - help [ab10000]
Sep 15, 2012 (6:12 am)
My thoughts are that you are the one that's unsophisticated at best. At worst ______ fill in the blank.
One second faster 0-60 is a big deal for you. OK, I understand. But if you want to drag race an X5 between stoplights, be aware that the 3.5i 6 cylinder gas engine from a 3 series is not exactly going to be taking many checkered flags from the V8 X5 5.0 or Cayenne S. The fact is that an X5d from 40-80 is equal to or quicker than the gas model, which is where highway acceleration matters to me. Getting 29.4 mpg on my 510 mile trip home from the factory was nice icing on that cake. As for why diesel is 15 cents more than premium in California, take it up with your elected socialists. It's priced slightly above mid grade here, about 10 cents a gallon less than premium at the Shell station I stopped at. Once. Still on the second tank.
I certainly think the 3.5i has a nice feel off the line, but the X5d is hardly "unresponsive". 35 less horsepower but 125 more ft. lb of torque is a pretty good SUV trade off in my opinion. Having owned a 911S for five years, my next higher horsepower, lower torque car is likely to be another 911, Cayman S or M3 - not a 5,000+ pound SUV.
My guess is that you've never actually driven the vehicle. Certainly never witnessed first hand a BMW instructor take an X5d around a track at speeds you likely couldn't match in a M3, let alone X5 3.5i. But that's also fine. The fact that BMW has to offer a $4,500 discount to overcome an unsophisticated public in the U.S. is great for those of us on the buying side.
FWIW, the biggest gripe of the BMW professional driving instructors I heard at the Performance Delivery Center last week had nothing to do with "unsophisticated" diesels, but the fact that BMW is being forced to go to turbo's to meet EPA mandates. You say you like the sound of the 3.5i engine. Well absolutely NONE of them want to see or hear a variant of that replace the natural free revving V8 in the M3, which is what is happening in 2013/4.
Maybe you can print this article out and take it to the throne to improve your own sophistication as to the future of BMW diesels: M Diesel
#2051 of 2262 Re: X5 Premium lease - help [habitat1]
Sep 15, 2012 (8:43 am)
Couldn't say it better myself. I was skeptical of the diesel even when I signed the paperwork, but this car continues to blow my mind in it's capabilities.
Drive the truck for an extended period of time, get almost 600 miles out of a tank a gas, and try to tell me this vehicle is for unsophisticated buyers.
I've had luxury cars for many many years and this is the most satisfied I've ever been with respect for value and performance.
#2052 of 2262 whats a fair lease price?
Sep 16, 2012 (9:00 am)
I'm looking at leasing a 2013 BMW X5 premium with convince package and was wondering if anyone could share the terms of their lease or what they think would be a fair down and monthly payment so i can know how hard to push in negotiating.
Thank you in advance
#2053 of 2262 CARMAN, where are you?
Sep 17, 2012 (9:27 pm)
I posted a few days back about a lease I was presented with. Your comments would be most helpful. Thanks.
#2054 of 2262 Loyalty Cash Question
Sep 19, 2012 (11:42 am)
I have a question about loyalty cash and a lease. If the dealer says it is willing to sell the car at invoice, is it reasonable to expect them to deduct an extra $750 for the BMW loyalty cash which is currently being advertised? I am being told they are willing to sell a 2013 BMW X5 50i at invoice, but when I inquired on loyalty cash, I was told that the price offered already took the loyalty cash into account. Thanks, again, for your assistance!
Sep 19, 2012 (12:17 pm)
Just got my friend a deal on this X5 . Thought it was pretty amazing!
MSRP - $78,045 (Nappa Leather, M Performance Package, M Sport Package, 20" Wheels, Premium Package, Premium Sound, Technology Package, Luxury Package)
Selling price - $70,681
BMW Drive USA Credit - $1,000
BMW Loyalty Credit - $750
USAA Member Credit $1,000
App. Credit - $500
Final selling price - $67,431
Money Factor - .00145
Residual for 12,000 per year - 61%
Total due at signing - $3,656.72 (1st month payment $717.46, Bank fee $725, Taxes $1,963.76, Transfer plates $153, Doc Fee $75, NYS Insp. $10, NYS Tire Fee $12.50)
Monthly payment - $717.46 for 36 months.
CARMAN - What do you think? Good Deal??