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Re: re-leasing [leaser310] by billmv
Oct 06, 2008 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: leaser310 (Oct 06, 2008 1:47 pm)

RG...... Essentially you have to drill down into the math they used to calculate these payments to understand where you're getting hosed. Ask them for the following:
 
1) the capitalized cost. This should be no more than the residual value on the first lease. You paid it down to that amount, so you should not have to "buy" the car for more the second time around.
 
2) How much of the $6,000 initial payment is for a "cap cost reduction" (down payment) and how much goes to other fees. Get a complete breakdown of those fees. Is there another "bank fee"? Is the lessor BMW Financial Services or a local bank? If it's BMWFS, then you may be able to re-lease through them directly. Call them and find out.
 
3) What is the new residual value?
 
4) What is the new money factor? Compare it to MFs for new leases.
 
With these figures you can calculate your new payment. Do you know how to do that? It should match theirs. I'll bet in your case they are jacking up the MF and bank fee substantially to make more money.
 
Often in a lease on a brand new car the manufacturer will use a residual that is a bit high in order to lower the payment. But in a re-lease, they know that they have to look at what the vehicle will be worth at the end of the second lease, and that can be quite low. All that depreciation jacks up your payment. Plus, they probably won't be able to give you as good a MF as they can the first time around.
 
Good luck!
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Re: re-leasing [billmv] by leaser310
Oct 06, 2008 (4:13 pm)
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Replying to: billmv (Oct 06, 2008 3:41 pm)

Thanks for the good info. I was working with my local dealership. I'll call BMWFS first thing in the morning.
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Re: Lease Question [Car_man] by kpj
Oct 10, 2008 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Sep 23, 2008 3:26 am)

Thank you Car_man for your response. It was the 36 month 15,000 mile leases that I was referring to.
 
Are these the same numbers for the month of October on 2008 models? Also, are they still offering the premium package reductions or any other incentives to help move the '08's?
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Re: Lease Question [kpj] by Car_man HOST
Oct 13, 2008 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: kpj (Oct 10, 2008 6:57 am)

No problem, kpj. BMW actually just enhanced its October lease program for 2008 models on Friday. BMW Financial Services' new buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2008 X3 with 15,000 miles per year are .00125 and 62%, respectively. Some '08 models still have free options available on them, but I don't think that the X3 is one of them.
 
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Re: Lease Question [Car_man] by kpj
Oct 14, 2008 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Oct 13, 2008 4:38 pm)

thanks again. can you give me the lease rates on the X5? 36 months. 15,000 miles.
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Re: Lease Question [kpj] by Car_man HOST
Oct 14, 2008 (5:35 pm)
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Replying to: kpj (Oct 14, 2008 5:13 am)

No problem kpj. BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2008 X5 3.0si with 15,000 miles per year are .00125 and 53%, respectively.
 
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Owners Choice vs. Lease by kev6873
Oct 15, 2008 (5:30 am)
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Can someone please explain to me why I shouldnt do an Owners Choice versus a lease? I live in Illinois and if I do plan on possibly buying the car, I would have to pay 7.5% sales tax...TWICE. The owners choice is like a balloon of some sorts if I understand it correctly. What are the drawbacks to it? Can someone please help me decide?
 
I am looking at a 2008 X3. My payments would be 393 (after trade in of an owners choice that weve had for 2 months but dont like the car) with a lease with the .00125 program, 10k miles or 422 a month with the owners choice at 12k miles. Residual is 60.5%. The car has 9900 miles on it.
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HELP! Looking to lease 08 X3. Deal or no deal? by m3ser2005
Oct 17, 2008 (1:52 pm)
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Here is the lease deal from my BMW dealer.
 
Good / OK / Not the best / Don't do it / RUN
 
New X3 (Premium, Sport and Cold weather packages)
3-years/10k
$5000 down
$377 month
 
Dealer price on X3: $44,450
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Re: HELP! Looking to lease 08 X3. Deal or no deal? [m3ser2005] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 18, 2008 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: m3ser2005 (Oct 17, 2008 1:52 pm)

1) What is the MSRP?
 
2) I'd say its a good deal, assuming MSRP is around $47K+
 
3) Roll that $5K into the lease payment.. Sure, that makes the payment about $525/mo., but the money is cheap (3%).
 
4) Is 10K mi/yr enough? Going to a 12K/yr lease only adds $15/mo. and another $30/mo. to go from 12K to 15K/yr..
 
Good luck!
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Re: HELP! Looking to lease 08 X3. Deal or no deal? [kyfdx] by m3ser2005
Oct 18, 2008 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 18, 2008 5:45 am)

Thanks. Was worried no one would respond in time. The dealership had no 08 left with the features I wanted. So their bring one in by truck from another dealership in another city. They brought it in under their dime. I saw the listing for the car I pick before the arrangement took place.
 
1) The MSRP was $47,500. But they came down to $44,700. I went in thinking I wanted to buy, but remembered I need a lease for business write off. So I switch to a 3 year lease.
 
2) Did you mean to not roll the money into the lease?
 
3) They are offering me a deal in the last year of the lease, if I think I'm going to be over mile, I can switch my mileage to 12K no problem, just $540. They will put that in writing. I'd rather go for low payment now and worry about mileage closer to the end.
 
With there zero cost of ownership, and some weariables (hat, jacket and plate holder) it really sounds like a pretty good deal.
 
How does this logic sound?

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