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Additional Deposits by getwired
Dec 26, 2006 (3:21 pm)
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All,
 
I currently have a lease with BMW. I understand that current customers receive the lower money factor without having to make the security deposit.
 
If this is the case, how many additional deposits can I make to lower the money factor. Is it still 7, or can I now make it 8 total?
 
Thanks!
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Re: Additional Deposits [getwired] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 26, 2006 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: getwired (Dec 26, 2006 3:21 pm)

The initial security deposit is separate from the MSD program, so even if you are not required to make it, you can still only make 7 MSDs.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Additional Deposits [kyfdx] by ctski1
Dec 27, 2006 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 26, 2006 4:15 pm)

kyfdx,
 
I'm going to attempt to negotiate a lease of a new X3 tomorrow. Please let me know some numbers I should consider. Anything that could help me....$$ factors, terms...Basically, how much should bargain off of the MSRP?
Thanks in advance!
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Re: Additional Deposits [ctski1] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 27, 2006 (8:23 pm)
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Replying to: ctski1 (Dec 27, 2006 10:05 am)

From the prices I see in the BMW X3: Prices Paid & Buying Experience forum.. I'd say you should be shooting for $2000-$2500 off MSRP, assuming you get the base MF and acquisition fee..
 
Example:
 
$44,000 MSRP
$41,500 Selling price
$42,125 CAP cost (selling price + acq.fee)
 
3yr/45K lease
65% Residual
.0015 MF
Payment = $482/mo.+ tax
Due at signing: 1st payment, security deposit, title/license fees (approx. $1200-$1300 total)
 
3yr/36K lease? Subtract $23/mo.
 
$500 higher selling price? Add $15/mo.
 
Hope this helps... The residuals are fantastic this month... I wouldn't count on them being that good next month.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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X3 Lease calculation help me do the math by izmirian
Dec 28, 2006 (2:18 pm)
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Welcome back Car_man and kyfdx,
 
I have this question that has been bothering me for a while now. I'd really appreciate if someone can help me with this.
 
In the below lease offer I'm seeing a total lease payment including acquisition fee of 13, 284 and when I divide that by 36 I get the monthly payment amount of 369 which makes me think acquisition fee is 0 dollars. I'm really confused here. When I try to calculate monthly payments for the as shown car, I'm getting only 389 per month instead of 401 per month. Where am I making the mistake? Also if I make a security deposit do I get my money back at the end of the term? How is it different than putting a down payment? Thanks a bunch for your help.
 
Lease financing available on 2007 BMW X3 3.0si vehicles, registered outside of NY, only at participating BMW centers on leases assigned to BMW Financial Services NA, LLC/Financial Services Vehicle Trust through January 2, 2007. Monthly lease payments of $369.00 for 36 months based on MSRP of $38,695.00 (includes automatic transmission). (Total lease payments including acquisition fee is $13,284.00). For vehicles registered outside of NY, $3,269.00 due at signing includes first month's payment, down payment and security deposit. For vehicles registered in NY, $3,238.00 due at signing includes $369.00 first month's payment, $2,500.00 down payment, and $369.00 security deposit.) Excludes tax, title, license, and registration fees. Lease financing subject to credit approval. Dealer contribution may affect terms. Lessee must cover insurance and all items not covered under the full maintenance program. At lease end, lessee will be liable for disposition fee ($350.00), any excess wear and use as set forth in the lease agreement and excess mileage charges of $.20 per mile for miles driven in excess of 10,000 miles per year. Purchase option at lease end for $26,313.00 excludes taxes. As shown: 2007 X3 3.0si with optional 18" Double Spoke Wheels, Metallic Paint, Xenon Adaptive Headlights has a MSRP of $40,470.00. If registered outside of NY, $401.00/month with $3,351.00 due at signing includes $401.00 monthly payment, $2,500.00 down payment and $450.00 Security Deposit. Total lease payments including acquisition fee is $14,436.00. If registered in NY, $401.00/month with $3,302.00 cash due at signing ($401.00 first month's payment, $2,500.00 down payment, and $401.00 security deposit). Total lease payments is $14,436.00. Lessee acquires no ownership interest unless purchase option is exercised. See participating BMW centers for details and vehicle availability. For more information call 1-800-334-4BMW
  
        Base X3 Optioned X3
Down 2500 2500
MSRP 38695 40470
CpCst ">36195 37970
Resdl 26313 27520.02
Term 36 36
MF 0.00151 0.00151
APR 3.63 3.63
R% 68% 68%
MP $369 $389
AdvrtsdMP $369 $401
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Re: X3 Lease calculation help me do the math [izmirian] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 28, 2006 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: izmirian (Dec 28, 2006 2:18 pm)

The advertised lease is missing one variable.. the selling price.
 
Without it, you can't calculate the lease payment..
 
In the advertised lease, the acquisition fee is added to the CAP cost, before the $2500 downpayment is deducted.. It is my estimation that the discount from MSRP to get this lease payment is about $625.. Which is why your calculation works out...
 
Why the numbers don't work out for the more highly optioned model, I'm not sure... They are either working with less of a discount, or there is some other reason... as I would assume $389/mo., as well.
 
As you can see, the low payment is more reflective of the lease program, than a low selling price... Which is something to keep in mind... You should be able to negotiate a deal at least $1000 better than the advertised deal.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Additional Deposits [kyfdx] by ctski1
Dec 29, 2006 (8:01 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 27, 2006 8:23 pm)

Thank you kyfdx!
 
This is an offer that I've received from a dealer in Springfield, MA
 
"With the options you have specified (205
216
248
2BP
494
4AD)
and with 12,000 miles per year, the
payment goes up to $361/month for a non-metallic color and $365/month for a
metallic color.
 
I ran the numbers with 6% sales tax. I don't know where you would be
registering it, but I saw the 860 area code.
 
Therefore, for a non-metallic car you would be at $382.56/month including
sales tax with $4042.06 due at signing (first monthly payment of $382.56,
security deposit of $400, doc fee of $289, registration fee of $135,
acquisition fee to BMW of $650, sales tax on your $2025 cap cost reduction
of $121.50 and sales tax on the $650 acquisition fee of $39 plus the $2025
cap cost reduction itself) and for a metallic car, you would be at
$387.36/month including sales tax with $4046.86 due at signing (first
monthly payment of $387.36, security deposit of $400, doc fee of $289,
registration fee of $135, acquisition fee to BMW of $650, sales tax on your
$2025 cap cost reduction of $121.50 and sales tax on the $650 acquisition
fee of $39 plus the $2025 cap cost reduction itself).
 
The monthly payment seems fair, but the $4046 due at signing is a bit high...(?)
 
Your valuable input will be greatly appreciated.
Have a Happy New Year!
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Ready to Lease 2007 X3 by ariannewife
Dec 29, 2006 (10:02 pm)
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Hi Folks
I am fnalizing the deal first thing in the AM.
I would love you help. I am nervous about getting a great deal.
X-3 PREMIUM PKG,PRIVACY GLASS,XENON,HEATED STEARING WHEEL
Leather, 18's
3900 Down
420 Per Month
36 Months
12,000 Miles Per Year
Please let me know your thoughts. John
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Need to sign today for 2007 x3 by terryf
Dec 30, 2006 (10:04 am)
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Hi everyone - I just suggested this to a dealer, and if she agrees and I'm offered it, I will sign today - what do you think? I'm waiting to hear back from salesperson.
2007 X-3
HEATED SEATS,HEATED STEERING WHEEL, PRIVACY GLASS, NAVIGATION, WOOD TRIM, METALLIC PAINT
2500 to cover all costs at inception
415 Per Month
24 Months
15,000 Miles Per Year
#335 of 632
Re: Need to sign today for 2007 x3 [terryf] by car20
Dec 30, 2006 (9:26 pm)
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Replying to: terryf (Dec 30, 2006 10:04 am)

I was in today as well...that sounds like a great deal if including tax. Let me know how you do....have you used their navigation system before..from what I am reading it doesn't get the best reviews...so I'm deciding whether to get it or not.
but for same car you have above..but without the heated steering wheel, with $12K mileage I was quoted $435.86 including tax and that was with like $3,486 down. But I hadn't done any research...it think it was $800 under MSRP..which now I know from reading here I can do much better. Good luck and let me know how you make out as I may order one on tuesday.

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