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X3 Leasing.... by mapperman
Jun 24, 2006 (10:22 pm)
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I am looking to lease an X3 BMW. I have no experience with making "deals" as far as leasing goes. Could you please explain to me what I can do and what I should know going into this experience. I do not want to get ripped off.
I am looking at X3's range 41-45K.
I live in Bend, Oregon. there is only one BMW dealer here in town. should I drive over to the valley...Salem/Portland to get a better deal?
I have Volvo V50 2005 at this time. can I make any deals with a trade-in? the Volvo is bluebooked at around 25K+.
what is the best way to approach this?
please help. I don't want to be ignorant going into this lease.
Thanks,
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Re: X3 Leasing.... [mapperman] by pgeters
Jun 25, 2006 (11:13 pm)
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Replying to: mapperman (Jun 24, 2006 10:22 pm)

mapperman, if you are really serious, I would recommend reading a good book on automobile leasing to really understand what to look for. I also recommend reading through this entire thread. When I leased my X3 I found a deal that someone had posted here, took it in to the dealership, and asked them to match it. The numbers posted here will give you a good idea of what to shoot for. But, if you don't understand how a lease works the dealership can still slip some part of the deal by you that may look OK at first, but really is just extra money in their pocket.
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Re: June numbers [lponz7] by Car_man HOST
Jul 02, 2006 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: lponz7 (Jun 08, 2006 8:30 am)

Hi lponz7. If you were to lease a 2006 BMW X3 through BMW Financial Services right now for 36 months with 10,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00185 and 68%, respectively.
 
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Re: 2006 BMW X3 [spindoc1] by Car_man HOST
Jul 02, 2006 (6:37 am)
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Replying to: spindoc1 (Jun 18, 2006 4:42 pm)

Hi spindoc1. The dealer that you are working with can't force you to take the X3 that you ordered if you haven't physically taken delivery of it. However, if you gave them some sort of deposit they certainly can make it difficult to get back. If you decide that you don't want to do this deal and they refuse to give you your money back, if you paid your deposit with a credit card you can at least dispute the charge.
 
As far as this truck's price goes, a 2006 BMW X3 with similar equipment to the one that you described has a spread of around $4,000 between its full MSRP and dealer invoice prices. You are only being given a discount of $1,620 on this tuck. If I was in the market for one, I personally would want at least a $3,000 discount. You may be able to get an idea of how much others have paid for similar trucks by stopping by the following discussion: "BMW X3: Prices Paid & Buying Experience".
 
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Re: Lease Deal on X3 - Any good? [cmcewen2] by Car_man HOST
Jul 02, 2006 (6:42 am)
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Replying to: cmcewen2 (Jun 20, 2006 1:27 pm)

Hello cmcewen2. The money factor that you were quoted for this truck is right in line with BMW Financial Services' current buy rate for it. This is a good sign because it means that the dealer that you are working with is not trying to mark your vehicle's money factor up to add additional hidden back-end profit to your deal. If the selling price that you are being given is $1,000 over invoice like you indicated, it is reasonable as well. The bank fee that you are being charged is a little high though. BMW FS' current base lease acquisition fee is only $625. Other than that, this deal looks good.
 
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Re: X3 Leasing.... [mapperman] by Car_man HOST
Jul 02, 2006 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: mapperman (Jun 24, 2006 10:22 pm)

Greetings mapperman. Since you are new to the world of leasing, you definitely should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.
 
When negotiating a lease, the two most important numbers to focus on are your vehicle's selling price and its money factor. These ate the two main profit centers for dealers. Negotiate as low a selling price as possible on the X3 that you want and then have the dealer calculate its lease payment using BMW Financial Services' "buy rate" lease money factor. This car's current buy rate is .00185. It is important to make sure that this is the number that is being used to calculate your truck's lease payment because BMW dealers are notorious for marking vehicles' money factors up to add additional back-end profit to deals.
 
If you want to trade in your Volvo, treat it as a separate transaction. You can find out approximately what your vehicle is worth by looking up its Edmunds.com True Market Value in the Used Vehicle Pricing section of this site. You also may want to stop by the following discussion: "Real-World Trade-In Values". When you trade in your car, have the dealer cut you a check for any equity that you have in it rather than using the proceeds from it as a capitalized cost reduction for your lease. It is in your best interest not to make large down payments when leasing because if your leased vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered, your down payment essentially disappears.
 
Well, that covers the basics. Let me know if you have any other questions.
 
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Current Lease Rates by edever
Jul 12, 2006 (12:07 pm)
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What are the current lease rates for the X3? I saw that there were some lease specials, but I'd like to know the breakdown, i.e. residual, money factor and so forth. Supposed to be good through Aug 31 I think.
 
Thanks!
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Re: Current Lease Rates [edever] by kptaylor
Jul 18, 2006 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: edever (Jul 12, 2006 12:07 pm)

I'm also interested in the current money factors and residual rates on X3's. Specifically, I'm looking at a 24 month lease with 20K miles per year. Not sure if you can get this or if you have to buy miles to get it...
 
Any help Car man is appreciated!
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Re: Current Lease Rates [kptaylor] by tc9897
Jul 23, 2006 (2:29 am)
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Replying to: kptaylor (Jul 18, 2006 7:05 pm)

I just got my new lease on X3 yesterday...
 
Residual rates:
78% for 24-month, 10k/yr
77% for 24-month, 12k/yr
68% for 364-month, 10k/yr
67% for 36-month, 12k/yr
 
money factor (good til 8/31): .00195 (seems to have gone up a bit from .00185)
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X3 Lease; Heated Seats Privacy Glass by nebusa_futbol
Jul 23, 2006 (4:37 pm)
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Car_Man,
I'd really appreciate your assistance with this one. I'm in the midwest, Kansas City region. I'd like to lease a standard X3 with heated seats and privacy glass added.
 
According to Edmunds.com
 
Retail: 38345
TMV: 36864
Invoice: 35140
 
I'd like a 39-44 month lease with 12k of miles.
 
Current posted internet special is 36 month 379 / month. With 3800 up front.
 
I think 366 / month for the X3 described above is fair with around 1800 drive off total for the lease I'm looking for. Is this realistic? What numbers do I need to present to the dealer in order to make this happen?
 
Thanks in advance! I appreciate any assistance anyone can provide as I'm a newbie to the leasing world.

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