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Re: Final 530xi Lease Deal [bbreaker] by Car_man HOST
Sep 14, 2006 (2:57 am)
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Hi bbreaker. I had to remove your post because it contained your salesperson's name. Posting the names of dealerships in this forum is OK, but not the names of specific salespeople. Here's the rest of your post:
 
"It is at North Scottsdale BMW. I just talked to him. He said the Cap cost was 45,389.74
Money Factor .0016
Residual 73%
  
Does this add up? It doesn't look like they are discounting the base price very much off the MSRP, but the low MF and especially the 73% residual is probably how they can get the monthly payment so low. Right?"
 
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Re: 2006 M5 lease deal [offset] by Car_man HOST
Sep 14, 2006 (3:09 am)
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Replying to: offset (Sep 05, 2006 8:16 pm)

Hi offset. It doesn't appear as though this dealer is doing you any favors. They are charging you full MSRP for this car and marking up its money factor a ton. BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor for the 2006 M5 is .00319. Even worse, you are making additional security deposits. Each additional deposit that you make on this car, after the first, will reduce its money factor by .00007. The M5 is an amazing car and I realize that they are probably in very short supply given their limited production, but this deal is not very good. Perhaps this is just the price that one has to pay for this car right now. Have you tried shopping around at all? Are there any other M5s in your area?
 
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Re: September info [mark1234] by Car_man HOST
Sep 14, 2006 (3:12 am)
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Replying to: mark1234 (Sep 06, 2006 12:35 pm)

Hi mark1234. The money factor that you heard is correct. BMW FS' current residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2007 530xi with 15,000 miles per year is 60%. For more information on how much you should pay for this car, make sure to sop by the following discussion: "BMW 5-Series: Prices Paid & Buying Experience".
 
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Wish I found this forum sooner...525i by new525iguy
Sep 14, 2006 (11:15 am)
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Hello everyone,
 
I recently purchased (LEASED) a 2007 525i over 36 months with 15k per year. I know after reading other posts I did not get a good deal. I still want to show what I paid and learn from my mistakes, so on the next lease I will be better prepared.
 
Year = 2007
Make = 525i
Lease = 36 months
Miles = 15k year
 
Options*
Premium Package
Sport Package
Automatic Steptronic Transmission
 
Total Suggested retail price $50,770
Gross Capitalized cost = $49,881.03
Purchase Option at end of term = $30,462.00
(I think my residual is 62% based on my depreciation amount being $18882.44) (($18882.44 / $30462.00 = 62))
 
I will just list everything so you can comment on where I got ripped off and I will take notes for the next time.
 
Gross Capitol Cost = $50,606.03
Capitol Cost Reduction = $1261.59
Adjusted Capitol Cost = $49344.44
Residual Value = $30462.00
Rent Charge = 6004.72 (Not sure what this is)
Total Base monthly payments = $24887.16
Lease term = 36
Base monthly = $691.31
Sales Tax/ Use Tax = 53.58
TOTAL MONTHLY PAYMENT = $744.89
 
Drive OFF
Capitol Cost reduction = $1261.59
First Monthly = $744.89
Refundable Security = 0.00
Initial Title = 0.00
Initial Registration = 0.00
Initial License fees = $387.00
Sales Tax /Use = 0.00
Acqusition fee = 0.00
dmv electronic fee = 0.00
sales tax Capitol cost reduction = $97.77
Doc Prep = 0.00
California Tire fee = $8.75
Total = $2500.00
 
Itemization of Gross capitol Cost**
Total Agreed upon Value = $49881.03
Other ACQ FEE = $725.00
Gross Cap cost = $50606.03
 
I know I did not get a good deal after reading some of the other posts. After I received the vehicle I realized it did not have the Logic 7 stereo with sattelite as the sales rep explained. I had already singed and they said there was no cooling off period. This angered me and I called BMWUSA and they said I should have looked at the dealer sticker more carefully. Obviously this is my mistake and the dealer manager said he would give me $500.00 as good will but I have yet to see it. I appreciate all the advice that will be givin.
 
Thanks..
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Re: Wish I found this forum sooner...525i [new525iguy] by montecristo
Sep 14, 2006 (9:19 pm)
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Replying to: new525iguy (Sep 14, 2006 11:15 am)

I'm sure other experts on this board can give you better advice, but let me give it a shot.
I think you first got ripped off on the purchase price. I think you paid around $2,500~$3,000 over invoice. Secondly, I think they charged you money factor of 0.00209.
 
I would report to BMW customer service. I think you definitely have a case on Logic7 that they lied to you. When BMW calls you for a customer survey, if you respond negatively, the salesperson will not be eligible to receive 'Honors' status, and this will prevent him from getting perks such as free bmw lease among others. It will also affect the whole dealership as well and I heard they will get hit on kickbacks.
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Re: Wish I found this forum sooner...525i [montecristo] by new525iguy
Sep 15, 2006 (8:20 am)
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Replying to: montecristo (Sep 14, 2006 9:19 pm)

Thanks for the feedback montecristo. I never had someone call me for the BMW to survey only for BMW automated payment, if I was interest and also info on the bmw owners circle. (website) I did suprisingly get a call after I posted this yesterday about the $500.00 check. He said it was in the mail and that people were out sick so it was never mailed?? Anyways... I know that this is a learning experience and it is only a car. I was very bitter at first and felt ripped off, but if I am the buyer & customer and don't do my research on factors etc. this was bound to happen. Three years will go by fast, but I really did want that stereo with 6 disc cd and subwoofers etc. Any more thoughts on the pricing for this would be greatly appreciated!
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Great deal on 550i by bmwfan5
Sep 15, 2006 (2:59 pm)
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Hi Car man,
 
I just wanted to share the details on a lease deal I just got on a 550i in New Jersey and wanted to get your thoughts on how I did. Specifics are below:
 
2007 550i
 
Selling price - 500 over invoice
Money factor - .00195
Residual value - 73% (2 year lease, 10K per year)
 
Payment worked out to $734.46 per month as I chose to pay taxes and motor vehicle fees upfront. Could you let me know your thoughts? Thanks!
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Re: Great deal on 550i [bmwfan5] by cfopv
Sep 15, 2006 (4:43 pm)
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Replying to: bmwfan5 (Sep 15, 2006 2:59 pm)

What is the name of the dealer who offered you 500 over invoice? I'm in the market for a 525xi and can't find any dealer willing to budge off of selling prices that make any of the leases reasonable.
 
I got a 3 year lease quote on a 525xi at two central NJ dealers for approx. $750/month. I laughed at them!
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Re: Great deal on 550i [cfopv] by bmwfan5
Sep 15, 2006 (5:33 pm)
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Replying to: cfopv (Sep 15, 2006 4:43 pm)

I got the deal from Prestige BMW in Ramsey, NJ and know of others in NJ who have got similar deals (500 to 1000 over invoice). Please feel free to send me a message if you would like more details.
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Re: 525i Lease Question [noleguy] by Car_man HOST
Sep 16, 2006 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: noleguy (Sep 11, 2006 9:03 am)

Welcome noleguy. We're talking about a car that has a $3,500 spread between its MSRP and dealer invoice price, yet you are only being given less than a $1,000 discount on it. I am not intimately familiar with what the market is like for the '07 5-Series right now, but if I was in your area and was in the market for this car I would comparison shop with a few other dealers. This may be as good as it is going to get, but I would want to confirm that before pulling the trigger. Make sure to stop by the following discussion for more information on how much you should pay for this car right now: "BMW 5-Series: Prices Paid & Buying Experience".
 
One thing that I know for certain is the money factor that you are being charged for your 5-Series is way too high. BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor for a 36 month lease of this car is only .00160 with the payment of a security deposit at lease signing. Make sure that the dealer you are working with uses this money factor to calculate your car's monthly payment. Also, BMW FS' base acquisition fee is only $625, so this aspect of your deal is being marked up as well.
 
Overall, I am not very impressed with this offer.
 
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